Yes, I am sure she was a first time user of "Grant Youth". That's why I picked her and made her my "Test". I even named her that. smile Anyway, she still has that baby and the timer is still not ticking. It wouldn't have made a difference if the baby's father had used Grant Youth, would it? I'm not sure about him... Maybe I'll do another "Test" in my other tribe. I haven't used Grant Youth there at all.