I must admit that, as much as I enjoyed the VV games, eventually I got bored with them and haven't played them in awhile, though they are still on my computer. When it got to the point where all I could do was hit the gong once a day, etc, I lost interest and let my tribes die off. Maybe someday I'll start new ones, but as long as LDW brings out new games, like VF or the upcoming VV4, I probably won't play the older ones. Good job giving us an escape from "real" life, LDW, lol!