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#8257 - 04/20/05 02:21 PM
Vanishing Villagers
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Lead Designer
Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 2729
Loc: San Francisco
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As we turn our attention to the most pressing of the bugs, we are now concerned with disappearing villagers.
There seem to be two ways this is happening: The first is when villagers are taking away dead bodies. Any additional observations regarding this are very welcome--please do include the device you are using and what exactly was happening.
The other way it seems to happen is when certain villagers are dropped on the large rock, or the boulder blocking the cave.
If anyone has experienced this, please check in here with what device you are using as well as any additional details regarding the disappearance!
Thanks!
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#8258 - 04/20/05 03:00 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Anonymous
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Hey, I just lost one. Villager A died, the first one to die, and one of my other villagers (Villager B) was going to take him to the burial area. Villager C happened to get sick, and I dragged yet another villager (Villager D) on to the sick one. Villager D healed Villager C, then I was dragging her back down to harvest crops, and she disappeared when I dropped her. She no longer shows in the details screen, and my population is one shorter - as if she never existed. I have a Zire 71.
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#8259 - 04/20/05 03:05 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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Thank you for the information. How many villagers do you have right now?
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#8260 - 04/20/05 04:01 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Anonymous
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I have 12 left at the moment.
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#8261 - 04/20/05 08:58 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Anonymous
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I've got a Tungsten C. Received a fatal error (I didn't note what type of error) and when I return to the game, 7 or 8 villagers were gone, and two graves were missing. There were 10 dead bodies. The village had the same physical progress, but tech points were different than they were before, too.
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#8262 - 04/20/05 09:06 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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That will happen if you've been running your game for very long prior to a crash. The game is saved only when you exit to the launcher or another app, so when you launch Village Sim again after a crash, you will revert to your previous save game (and things are usually drastically different as a result). It's more important to report the exact kind of crash you had - since that's the real bug, and Arthur can only fix it if he knows what kind of crash you had.
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#8263 - 04/20/05 09:40 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Anonymous
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Sony Clie PEG-TJ37
My villagers vanish too. I've only noticed it after they bury the dead. Also, the game has started to run slowly & not respond to my stylus...
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#8265 - 04/20/05 09:47 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Anonymous
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I have 65 vill, GC, 11/12 puzzles, now game is slow technically & otherwise!
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#8266 - 04/20/05 09:58 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Master
Registered: 04/10/05
Posts: 470
Loc: New York
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I posted this on another thread but just for housekeeping/ease of tracking..  I have a Tungsten T5 - the game is being run of the internal memory card. My first villagers died. I dragged a villager over to the "sacred area for the dead" which prompted her to go to the remains and bury them. I kept her highlighted so I could watch but did not move or touch her during this process. She went, got the bodies, brought them back to the burial area, and two headstones popped up. Then I continued watching and she decided to do an "honor the dead" action. She began walking toward the field of flowers and right when she got to the edge of the field she disappeared. My population count did NOT go down, but she was no longer seen in the detail screen. As an addition to the story, some more villagers just died and I had a villager that wasn't too talented yet go bury them - he buried and went to the field, gathered flowers and put them near the headstones, no disappearing for him! --- This is a side note to the disappearing villagers - but I've had a few weird "camera" glitches. I'll poke a villager to get them highlighted, move them to an area like the water to fish or cactus to practice medicine - and instead of staying with the villager the "camera" starts panning back to where I picked them up and it says I have them "held" still. I can move back and re-select them with no problem. Just an oddity to add to the possible "glitches" - though it doesn't seem to make any kind of bad things happen to my game or make people disappear or whatever.
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#8270 - 04/20/05 10:29 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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Thanks for the detail, Rebecca! That last bug you described is a known bug, which is also associated with dead/buried villagers. It's another one of the bugs that will probably go away once Arthur and team solve the underlying bug.
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#8272 - 04/21/05 10:27 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Anonymous
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I have had vanishing villagers - I put one in the cave and they disappeared but I couldnt repeat it. I couldnt work out the cave thing, every time I put someone in it the screen telling me what the cave is flashes up. Will it ever stop ie once every villager has seen the cave? I have also had sluggish screen problems, my population is 65 so the previous answer may be relevant here. Could someone let me know whether I should start again because I have level 3 of everything but no builders left and I would rather start again to get the 12th puzzle solved (I have solved all the others). Great game Leila Ferguson leilaferguson@yahoo.co.ukZire 71 and Tungsten C
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#8274 - 04/21/05 11:25 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Anonymous
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I have had this happen with two villagers during times when I was not watching to see specifically what happened. No one had died during the time period of the second disappearance. I am using a Treo 600.
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#8275 - 04/21/05 03:40 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Anonymous
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You could "prevent" from loosing your game if you have a SD card or can copy a file from your Palm user directory on the PC..... Just copy VillageSavegame.pdb to a safe location every now and then so you can restore your game from that point if something fails on the game...
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#8276 - 04/21/05 05:06 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Anonymous
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I have had two more villagers vanish. They were both men who were 'going indoors'.
Leila Ferguson
Zire 71 and Tungsten C
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#8277 - 04/21/05 06:32 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Trainee
Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 30
Loc: Reading, UK
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Also the game keeps crashing again. Do I have to download the fix before each new game? I had started a new game.
Leila
Zire 71 and Tungsten C
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#8278 - 04/21/05 06:56 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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Did you completely uninstall your old version of the game (and the savegame) before you installed the fix?
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#8279 - 04/21/05 07:58 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Lead Designer
Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 2729
Loc: San Francisco
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No you only need to install the fixed version once.
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#8280 - 04/22/05 08:25 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Newbie
Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 10
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where do we get the fixed version from??
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#8281 - 04/22/05 09:54 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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You can find it here:
www.ldwsoftware.com/VillageSimFixed.zip
It's a stability fix for people who are having crashes. There are plans to release a Village Sim update.
Edited by ladycfii (04/22/05 09:58 AM)
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#8282 - 04/22/05 10:30 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Anonymous
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sml here, tungsten c i am not having any particular problem with vanishing villagers, yet (i have 'swept' a couple of them off the screen and into nowheresville with my stylus  should i install the fix, anyway, in case? thanks, s.
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#8283 - 04/22/05 10:32 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Anonymous
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I have been playing Village Sim since the day I got it--about 9 days now. Last night, for the first time, I had some missing villagers, as I have seen mentioned in the forums. At the time, I had 65 villagers, all research done, lots of full-time doctors. One of my oldsters had died; no problem--she was 82. Then another one died who was 79--and 5 more villagers, all under 60 died at the same time. (I keep an eye on the old ones; they've been around longer and I become quite fond of them.) No message about a plague or anything. Then when I was helping them make some babies--I had just put a man on a woman---poof! she vanished right before my eyes! Another one vanished at the same time but I didn't see who (I think it may have been another villager "Going Indoors"), and suddenly I was down 8 villagers, with 2 graves missing. I've never had a problem with any going missing before now. I generally have the max allowable number of villagers, so they're pretty easy to keep track of. Oh, I also had 33000+ food at the time, so I know they didn't starve. And I've had Spirituality 2 since before my first villagers died, so my number of deaths and graves always matched before.
I tried to post this is a support email, but I kept getting an "Inavalid email address" message whenever I hit the "Send" button.
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#8284 - 04/22/05 10:49 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Anonymous
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Forgot to mention my Palm type--it's a Palm Tungsten E.
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#8285 - 04/22/05 10:52 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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The special fix release will not help with disappearing villagers. It's only a stability fix for people who were crashing when they tried to start a new game.
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#8286 - 04/22/05 10:57 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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Thanks very much for the details! The vanishing villager bug seems to be somehow related to deaths/burials. It would be very interesting to know if anyone has ever had a villager disappear in this way during the early part of the game, before any villagers die.
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#8288 - 04/22/05 03:18 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Newbie
Registered: 04/22/05
Posts: 1
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I just bought the game yestarday and things seem to be going well. I just had a villager die and now I am scared to even try to bury her remains. Any ideas on when a fix will be out?
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#8290 - 04/22/05 03:42 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Sage
Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 2638
Loc: Island of Isola
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Burnsie, don't worry about burying the remains. If you have the right level of spiritualty just drag a villager around to find the grave yard, they will do the rest. I belive that there have not been any problems so long as you exit the game after the have buried the dead and then restart the program.
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#8291 - 04/22/05 04:07 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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It seems that the best way to avoid disappearing villagers at this point is to refrain from dragging any villagers while (or immediately after?) corpses are being buried. Leaving the game and launching it again would probably add another measure of safety. If anyone can verify or disprove this theory, please post it here!
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#8292 - 04/22/05 06:32 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Master
Registered: 04/10/05
Posts: 470
Loc: New York
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I had another villager disappear today.
I came back to my game to find more villagers had died (poor old people!). Some of my villagers were sick so I found my best healer. She was in the middle of a "bury the dead" action. I scooped her up from burying and moved her to heal. She healed a villager and when she was done *poof!* she disappeared.
Bummer.
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#8295 - 04/22/05 07:28 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Anonymous
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If the vanishing villagers are a doctor problem, here's something weird I've noticed about the doctors--this is after you have a lot of villagers. When you first start the game, you'll usually find everyone off doing their own thing--except for some of the doctors. A few always seem to be frozen in place. If I move them a little, they come back to life, but otherwise they just seem to stay there, doing nothing and not moving at all.
I have a Palm Tungsten E.
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#8296 - 04/22/05 07:52 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Newbie
Registered: 04/15/05
Posts: 7
Loc: California
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Quote:
I have been playing Village Sim since the day I got it--about 9 days now. Last night, for the first time, I had some missing villagers, as I have seen mentioned in the forums. At the time, I had 65 villagers, all research done, lots of full-time doctors. One of my oldsters had died; no problem--she was 82. Then another one died who was 79--and 5 more villagers, all under 60 died at the same time. (I keep an eye on the old ones; they've been around longer and I become quite fond of them.) No message about a plague or anything. Then when I was helping them make some babies--I had just put a man on a woman---poof! she vanished right before my eyes! Another one vanished at the same time but I didn't see who (I think it may have been another villager "Going Indoors"), and suddenly I was down 8 villagers, with 2 graves missing. I've never had a problem with any going missing before now. I generally have the max allowable number of villagers, so they're pretty easy to keep track of. Oh, I also had 33000+ food at the time, so I know they didn't starve. And I've had Spirituality 2 since before my first villagers died, so my number of deaths and graves always matched before.
I had a very similar thing happen. I had 64 villagers, as one of the old ones died, and there were a bunch of villagers participating in burying the dead. At the same time I was breeding two villagers who were NOT participating in the burial. The "going indoors" message was on the screen when they both vanished.
I checked the numbers of villagers, and it then showed 62 (down 2). I'm not sure if the number of graves and number of dead villagers is correct or not. I'd previously had 16, but I'm not sure if I missed a couple or if this vanishing act impacted the number of dead and graves. The number of graves on the screen DOES agree with the number of dead in the stats.
Other info:
All of my villagers are in excellent health with the green bars all the way across except for one elderly woman (67 years old) who still has green but there's a little space there. There's tons of food, lots of doctors, researchers, farmers, and 3 adept parents (women).
When this happened, I'd solved the first 9 puzzles, and I had Level 3 for all Village Tech except Medicine, which was still Level 2.
The stats right after this happened:
Realtime hours: 193
Villagers born: 85
Villagers buried: 20
Oldest villager: 71
Max village population: 65
Food harvested: 132,003
Crabs caught: 714
Total tech points earned: 536,546
Tech levels completed: 11
Island events encountered: 10
Puzzles solved: 9 of 12
I'm using a Tungsten E, and I've installed the game on the expansion card.
Speed when this happened: Fast
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Let me know if you have any questions about this.
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#8298 - 04/22/05 09:05 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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Both doctors and builders have had this problem. It's on the known bug list. Thanks for the report!
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#8299 - 04/23/05 08:56 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Trainee
Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 30
Loc: Reading, UK
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The breeders are another lot who disappear as mentioned earlier by myself and someone else anonymous. It appears to be the placing of one person onto another that causes the disappearance.
I had real trouble getting this game going, I crashed about 5 times, deleted and redownloaded and crashed again but now seem fine so have no idea what that was all about.
Hope you sort out the disappearing people but great game anyway.
Leila
Zire 71 and Tungsten C
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#8301 - 04/23/05 10:48 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Newbie
Registered: 04/22/05
Posts: 6
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Help!
When I went to bed last night I had 8 villagers, everything was great, they were breeding, farming, everyone had great health. When I woke up this morning and checked (yes it is addicting) I had one two year old. There was no explanation as to what had happened. Very frustrating since I don't know what went wrong.
Melissa
Tungston E
Edited by saphy (04/23/05 10:50 AM)
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#8302 - 04/23/05 11:09 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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Hi, Melissa. Could you tell me a little more about what your game was doing overnight? Did you leave the game running and the device on, or did you have it powered off overnight. Do you remember how many hours you had been playing, and what speed the game was set to? Were your villagers dead (and, perhaps, buried), or were they gone? This information will be very helpful to detemine a little more accurately what might have happened.
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#8303 - 04/23/05 11:13 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Newbie
Registered: 04/22/05
Posts: 6
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The device was turned off. I had played a little over 36 hours. The game was set to normal speed. I looked all over the island for something different, but I didn't see anything. No little skeletons, no graves, nothing.
Thanks
Melissa
Edited by saphy (04/23/05 11:14 AM)
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#8304 - 04/23/05 11:18 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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That's very odd. A few more questions: 1) when you turned your Palm off, was the game still running, or did you leave the game first? 2) how recently had you exited the game (which saves it)? 3) had your Palm been reset during this game (either by an error or by poking the little hole)?
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#8305 - 04/23/05 12:48 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Newbie
Registered: 04/22/05
Posts: 6
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The game was still running when I turned it off. In the future, should I go to my Home Screen on the Palm? I had turned it on briefly to check my little people's progress and went to bed (I said it was addictive!). No, the Palm hadn't been reset during this game.
Thanks!
Melissa
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#8306 - 04/23/05 01:06 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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Village Sim, like Plant Tycoon and Fish Tycoon, is only saved when you exit (either to another app or the launcher), so I usually exit once in awhile just to make sure I don't lose the progress that my villagers have made. Your villagers shouldn't have just disappeared overnight, though, and on normal speed the skeletons shouldn't have had time to decompose (if they had died). I'm afraid I can't explain what happened to your villagers, unless they just starved or died from sickness. The villagers are not as productive when the game is off, so that's possible.
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#8307 - 04/23/05 01:21 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Newbie
Registered: 04/22/05
Posts: 6
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Thanks for your help. I'll exit to the home page in the future, but another thing I noticed is that there were berries on the bush, so I'm not sure they starved. I'll just start over!
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#8308 - 04/23/05 01:24 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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Depending on how many villagers you have, the berries are not sufficient to feed everyone. They need to have a food source that's more plentiful and reliable than the berry bush. Please let us know if that ever happens again (I hope not)! That's not a good thing to wake up to.
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#8309 - 04/23/05 04:24 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Newbie
Registered: 04/19/05
Posts: 8
Loc: Vermont, USA
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Hello, In case you are still in need of vanishing villager scenarios, I just had one . I had an adept researcher find the graveyard, then go and bury the only dead body there was. When he was done, and leaving the graveyard, I switched his preferred skill to "healing". I knew I would need another good healer since the best one I had was getting old. I then dragged him to the cactus where he promptly disappeared. My village population went down by one. Then when I checked my stats it said that 2 villagers had been buried. Sure enough, when I went back to the graveyard, there were two headstones. I'm still early in the game, with only 93 hours played. My max # of villagrs is 12. I'm playing on a Tungsten E.
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#8310 - 04/23/05 04:33 PM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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Thank you.
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#8311 - 04/24/05 01:02 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Newbie
Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 6
Loc: San Jose, CA
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I had a vanishing corpse this afternoon. Someone died of old age, and one of my villagers, a woman named Aba, picked up the corpse and was headed to bury it. I then went and looked at my stats and when I came back she was "waiting for someone". That someone turned out to be the fellow I had set for breeding, and the two of them proceeded to head indoors (I don't think a baby was produced). The corpse, meanwhile, was nowhere to be seen, and there was no new headstone in the cemetary (there were two before this happened, and still two afterwards).
This is on a Treo 650, and I was runnng at fast speed at the time.
Keith
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#8312 - 04/24/05 01:05 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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Thanks, Keith!
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#8313 - 04/24/05 01:35 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Anonymous
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Hi, I had a vanishing villager pretty early in the game. I was dragging her about to see what I could find. I was dragging her around the big rock, and she suddenly disappeared! My numbers went down by one (and I had less than 20 villagers at the time). It was like she never existed. I thought maybe she was just living behind the rock now 
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#8314 - 04/24/05 01:36 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Anonymous
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Sorry - in regards to my vanishing villager (behind/around the big rock) I forgot to add that I have a Zire 72
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#8315 - 04/24/05 09:17 AM
Re: Vanishing Villagers
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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You say it was pretty early in the game. Had any of your villagers died at any time before your villager vanished?
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#8316 - 04/24/05 12:50 PM
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Anonymous
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I think 1 had (of old age). I remember only just discovering what dying was, and I was pretty pissed off that I'd suddenly lost a young vibrant villager!
But as to whether a grave stone appeared or not I can't say. I seem to recall not, but can't be sure. However if it ever happens again I'll make sure and gather more info!
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#8318 - 04/24/05 02:24 PM
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Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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It is possible that your missing villager decomposed, instead of being buried. On fast speed your village will require more frequent attention.  We haven't seen any reports of any villagers vanishing apart from being dragged to another villager or certain places on the map (with the possible exception of a certain special child).
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#8322 - 04/25/05 10:01 AM
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Sage
Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 2638
Loc: Island of Isola
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I had a villager “disappear” yesterday. It was a 15-year-old male. I paused the game before heading off to church at 8:45. After church while having lunch I turned it back to fast speed. The villager in question was between the crops and research table. I clicked on him and was dragging him to the beach to start clearing the debris. While doing so the program went to the menu screen. I don’t know if this was due to the bug or if while dragging I hit the menu button, but when I went back to the game, I tried to find him to complete the drag to the beach, but he was gone. He was nowhere to be found.
I using a Treo 600. I’m running from the internal memory. It shows I have 8.3M of 21M free. I’m also using the updated program.
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#8325 - 04/28/05 01:01 AM
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Newbie
Registered: 04/26/05
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Some of my villagers were burying the dead, but I was using one villager to heal another, and after the sick one was healed, the doctor vanished!!!
The same thing just happened to me.
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#8326 - 04/28/05 09:13 AM
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Arthur is working hard to fix all of the little bugs in Village Sim. I think most of us have had a villager go "poof"!!
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#8327 - 04/29/05 11:25 PM
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Newbie
Registered: 04/27/05
Posts: 2
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I am using a Sony Clie TH55. While the Clie was turned off (but the game not paused) my oldest villager died at apparently the age of 79 (per the stats; he was the oldest I ever had). No new headstone, no remains, no more listing in villager details for the character "Bem", and the screen says I have 43 villagers but I only have details for 42 (I counted). Bem was just gone.
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#8328 - 04/29/05 11:36 PM
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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Poor Bem. At least he lived a fairly long life! Depending on the speed of your game, it's possible to have a villager die and decompose while the device is off. If that happened, there wouldn't be a headstone (although you would think that he would have been buried by the other villagers). Strange. Do you have any babies in your village? Babies are counted on the map screen, but don't have details screens yet.
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#8329 - 05/01/05 01:47 AM
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I've got a slightly different situation, I've got a "partially "lost villager! I've had 20 births, and the stranger in the woods joined, so I've had a total of 27 villagers. Because of the timing of the deaths, the max I've ever had at once is 21, which is my current number. The last of my original 6 villagers, Thabo, died at the age of 72, and was being buried. The next oldest villager is 47. In the meantime, I had another couple breeding, which resulted in a birth (no respect for the dead!)
Now, my stats are like this:
Villagers born 20
Villagers buried 5
Oldest villager 72
Max population 21
Current population shows 21, with 5 headstones. Under details, I have 19 villagers (and 2 babies). Thabo does not have a headstone, nor is he in details, but it's *his* age still showing as the oldest villager! He has disappeared, as many others seem to have reported, but he left a little trace, in his age!
I'm using a Zire 71, running from expansion card, 5M free ram.
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#8331 - 05/01/05 12:01 PM
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Newbie
Registered: 04/12/05
Posts: 18
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I had a couple of villagers go "indoors" and only one (female) came out. I checked my stats and found that I'd lost a villager. What do you suppose he's doing in there?
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#8332 - 05/05/05 06:38 PM
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Newbie
Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 12
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Me too. I finally noticed that I lost a villager, my only other "Adept Builder" when I was dragging her around the "breeding hut" to see if she would Fix the Hut, and she disappeared off screen. When I clicked through the "Details" I discovered that she was no longer there. I tried to exit and re-enter the game, but no luck. She's gone.
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#8333 - 05/10/05 03:53 PM
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I have had this problem. I have a Tungsten T5. I happened when I dropped a villager onto the big boulder blocking the cave entrance. He vanished and was no longer even listed in my list of villagers and their skills.
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#8334 - 05/13/05 07:37 PM
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Lead Designer
Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 2729
Loc: San Francisco
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If anyone is experiencing the VANISHING VILLAGERS bug, please send me a PM if you would like to test a new experimental version of Village Sim. We have a new build that will hopefully correct this bug.
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#8338 - 05/25/05 09:09 AM
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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That's unfortunate. Until the Village Sim update is released, the best way to prevent vanishing villagers is to avoid touching or dragging villagers during burials and to exit and restart the game once the burials have been completed. That's especially important advice for villagers that are vital members of your little tribe!
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#8340 - 05/25/05 07:37 PM
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Consigliere
Registered: 05/21/05
Posts: 270
Loc: California
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They are fixing this problem right now.... They will get you a new version as soon as it's ready! 
Will the update bring back the vanished people? Or will it simply prevent more from vanishing??
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#8341 - 05/25/05 07:49 PM
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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The update will be a new version of the game. The way villagers are handled in memory has been rewritten so that when you're playing the new version you won't have problems with vanishing villagers. There isn't anything that can bring back your vanished villagers short of loading a saved game from before they vanished.
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#8342 - 05/27/05 05:26 PM
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I have had villagers disappear as well and I also noticed that on a new game that I started, there were 2 remains and somehow, one disappeared and the other was buried.
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#8343 - 06/22/05 10:15 PM
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I am sad! I hadn't read about the burial bug yet when I dragged my one and only Master Builder onto a sick villager to heal him. She finished the job, and boom!! Kiki had done a dissapearing act! I think I could cry.  Code:
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#8344 - 07/05/05 02:30 PM
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Newbie
Registered: 07/04/05
Posts: 4
Loc: Georgia
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I had an elderly villager disappear. His health was failing and I expected him to die soon. I had turned off the unit and came back after 15minutes and couldn't find him. I checked the graveyard, not there. I checked the grounds near the fountain, no bones. I checked the detail screen not there, I checked the stat screen, no record of his death.
I am playing on a Tungsten C, 27 villagers at the time, 241 hours played.
I don't think I have to go back and restore game.
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#8345 - 07/05/05 02:52 PM
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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That might be something different than the vanishing villager bug. Was this the first death in your village?
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#8346 - 07/05/05 11:32 PM
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Newbie
Registered: 07/04/05
Posts: 4
Loc: Georgia
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No he would have been the 6th death
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#8347 - 07/05/05 11:42 PM
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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Then I suppose it's possible that you had a case of a vanishing villager. It's usually seen when touching or moving a villager during or shortly after burials. I agree with you that it's probably not worth restoring a saved game in an attempt to "undo" the vanishing event.
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#8348 - 07/09/05 03:10 PM
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Newbie
Registered: 07/09/05
Posts: 8
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it happens to me alot when i drop one onto another in a remote part of the village to breed... i'm running a zire 72
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#8350 - 08/05/05 03:43 PM
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17505
Loc: Colorado
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Unfortunately, there's going to be a risk of that until the v1.1 update is released. The best way to minimize the risk is to exit the game fairly regularly so that it's saved often, which also "tidies up" the villagers in memory so that there's not as much risk of vanishings.
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#8354 - 08/10/05 11:46 PM
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Newbie
Registered: 08/06/05
Posts: 23
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Here's a "cheat" that will probably work. As Ladycfii suggests, exit and reload fairly regularly. Now if something bad happens when you're in the game, hit the soft reset button on the back of your handheld. This will cause you to lose everything that's happened since your last save but also loses the lost villagers. I admit to using this when the random events are particularly bad. It's taken me three tries to get a village that didn't fail and I'm not going to allow some stupid random event to totally ruin it! Gah!
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#8355 - 08/16/05 10:48 PM
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Trainee
Registered: 07/06/05
Posts: 34
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I believe that I already reported that I dragged one of the "Village People" to the water to teach her how to fish;she was perfectly healthy and about 30 years old. I plopped her into the water...she never reappeared and another villager went into the water, got the body out and took her to be buried. She was off my list also. I've been working on Fish Tycoon, then decided to start Village Sim again. I took my best builder (thank you very much) and was dragging her over the research table. It appeared as though she had gone underneath the table....nope and gone from my Details List, too. At the very beginning, my Palm rebooted and I lost 2 days of work. Barbara told me to exit the game so it goes into save mode. I do that now after anything happens that is important. I have a Treo 600. Do also please let us know as soon as the upgrade is available. You all are truly adept!! Gail
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She really stood out with her yellow hair and bright red bow.
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