Cyborg, I guess you didn't read my entire comment.

"Heathens = Unfriendlies"

That would have been a more user-friendly term. No, I wouldn't want them called the terms that you suggested either. I have a right to be unhappy with the religious nature of this game. If they continue on this theme, I won't be buying any more VV games from LDW. That makes me sad.

Thanks for your input smjjames. I've played a lot of computer games, but never one where God showed up. So it was a shock to me. Especially since I have been playing LDW games for 5 years now.

Well, in the god game genre, the players themselves are the god that is using the powers. They aren't always labelled god powers, but it's the same concept.

Anyways, I agree they went in the wrong direction with the religious aspect. I'm not sure what their motivation was for VV5, but VV4 was religious in the sense that it was spiritual and cultural than closer to pure religion.

Since a lot of people are unhappy and angry with the religious theme LDW will probably steer away from it in the VV chapter (if there will even be one). But for now lets just forget about it. The religious theme was a bad idea I agree and I'm sure LDW is very sorry to have upset anyone with the game.

At least they tried to toe it carefully. However, I think the path they took for VV4 was in the right direction in the sense that it was spiritual rather than outright religious.

Really though,it's the whole deal with the heathens and the conversions that just rings christianity that people aren't liking.

If they want to keep the temple (I didn't think the hand statue was really a problem) with the devotion points and god powers, it's fine with me since that kind of resource building and powers is a staple of some strategy games, although I think the potions and alchemy from back in VV3 was better.

Edit: As for the Golden Child, it was more of a 'chosen one' thing than anything to do with Jesus, and from what I heard, the Golden Child was basically a spoiled brat who just happened to be the child emperor of the island. I don't really remember VV1 that much.

I am one of those people, who -- in the beginning -- was a bit miffed about the religious aspects. I truly wanted to like the game, and left it at that till I've completed the game - twice. My beef became the GOD power, NOT the name, NOR the hand statue. The fact that players are forced to keep the population at 100, with no other choices available, is, in my opinion, the biggest flaw in the game.

When will people stop discussing how much they hate VV5? LDW understands the religious theme was a bad idea we dont need to keep yelling in their faces how bad it is. I'm just saying I think we all made our point on how we think this religious theme was bad and we no longer need to talk about it.

Wow...I never thought this would be such a controversial topic, though I must agree it makes some sense.

Cyborg, please re-read the comments, word for word, and then tell me where, in any of them, do you read the word HATE? Players should be able to have a friendly discussion without some one chancing the whole dynamic of their discussion. I am sorry, but aren't you being rather presumptuous and more damaging that the discussion itself?

@Swedane: Hasn't the cap always been 100 or so?

While they could have called the god powers something else, spells, rituals, the fact that they are called god powers doesn't bother me since the same kind of thing is done in many games, even some which aren't in the god game genre. Age of Mythology (an Age of Empires spinoff) for example.

@Cyborg: I never said I hated it. It's just the whole overtness of it which bugs me a little. However, it's just a game, so I'm more like neutral on the whole thing.

I like the game and about religion no matter what every one has some sort of religion even virtual people in a game have it, and without it the game would be a bit boring. I like the concept it's good the way it's been made, keep it up.