Thanks, I haven't had an elder created by banging the gong. I really don't know where it could be. And if you are not able to ascertain anything to assist then I shall just have to keep looking.

I see what you mean by the green blending into the background. when it's by the gong you haven't a hope of spotting it unless you know what you are looking for.

is there anywhere else I should be looking?
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