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#113388 - 12/13/07 01:42 PM Re: Getting a Master Doctor [Re: arnie]
Cathexis Offline
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Registered: 05/24/06
Posts: 10
Loc: Okinawa, Japan
Arnie, you da bomb! I totally forgot about the log file. I'll have to check it and see what they're up to while I'm not looking over their tiny shoulders.

Thanks for the tip!

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#115114 - 12/31/07 05:41 AM Re: Getting a Master Doctor [Re: TribalMom]
jolandet Offline
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Registered: 11/18/07
Posts: 33
One of the three skills of most of my Esteemed Elders is Doctor. In the first few games I played, I often chose Building as one of the skills, but since that is so time consuming, I changed to Medicine. As soon as a child turns 14, I cross-train it by dropping it on the crops, the ocean, and equally on herbs and at the research area. I dont set a preference skill. Every time I open the game, I check the skill bars, and when I notice that some of my villagers are getting behind in medical skills, I train them on the herbs (in the right upper corner you can train three villagers at the same time). In that way, they get their totem ten years earlier than the villagers with building skills (I do need some builders, of course).

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#115118 - 12/31/07 07:59 AM Re: Getting a Master Doctor [Re: jolandet]
Rainbowlady333 Offline
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Registered: 09/24/07
Posts: 149
Loc: MA
Ah GOOD Jolandet!!! I always also check their health meter ... it will let you know what they DON'T like to do if they are stressed the meter will go down, at which point I help them train in another skill. I also like to give them a choice \:\) some do better than others in a particular skill, and it doesn't hurt to be "well-rounded". When my villagers get to elderly status, unless they are completely happy at what they are doing, I usually take the check mark off, in case they want to do something different.

ALSO ... in real life, healing is NOT JUST ON THE OUTSIDE ... or in the physical .... doing even everyday chores, relaxing on the beach, dancing, enjoying the pool, eating, getting a drink of water, etc. aids in healing the mind and spirit as well ... so PART of the healing is not just for others, BUT FOR THEMSELVES. They might not show it in the skill bar so much, but you might notice that usually their health bar is way up there!!!

Ever hear of the saying "Physician, HEAL THYSELF?" How about "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy?" LOL

I guess it is just everyone's perspective on how they operate ... I practice holistic healing and see things from a slightly different view than most people who are workaholics, or always have to be DOING something busy. Relaxation is a PART of the healing process, to help us keep ourselves balanced. The creators of VV2 seem to be echoing real life to a certain degree, and all of these little "side tasks" are a part of everyday real living. Life isn't always ALL goal oriented. When you get to a certain level in the game, where all of the preprogrammed "tasks" have been met, all of the collections have been collected, all milestones and levels achieved, you have enough tech points to help fully outfit another five tribes to the max and the only thing you can use them for is giving your villagers new clothing, and they have enough food to last 100 years without any farming at full 115 villager capacity -- seeking your villagers well being and helping the doctors and lighting the fires could possibly become your primary concerns ... they do things on their own. It's also nice to see some events too.
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#115121 - 12/31/07 10:17 AM Re: Getting a Master Doctor [Re: Rainbowlady333]
jolandet Offline
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Registered: 11/18/07
Posts: 33
O. but I don't give them any particular task from the beginning, I train them in three skills from age 14 on. And it is possible to enjoy life at the max, because they can do what they want, because by not calling them doctor, I void banning the healers from community life: they can choose between all other tasks and normal island relaxations. By not calling them doctor, they live life more to the full, I think.....
And I answered the question "How to get a Master Doctor ....., did not go in to the question as how I see life to be lived. Besides, compared to the live of the Builder, I think a training of a few minutes in herbs every time I open the game preferable to a life of a builder, who wastes his life away by needlessly examning and fixing huts that are completely in order.

But now another question ..... you say you see life from a different, a holistic view than most peop-le who are work aholocs. I wonder about this. What do you mean, are all people who dont look at life from a holistic view work aholics? Or are all people who work automatically work aholic? Or is just anybody who does things in another way than you automatically a work aholic whithout an holistic view. I know I am terribly off topic, but this phrase puzzled me a lot.

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#115169 - 01/01/08 12:11 AM Re: Getting a Master Doctor [Re: jolandet]
Rainbowlady333 Offline
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Registered: 09/24/07
Posts: 149
Loc: MA
Oh!! did not mean anything in a negative way ... not my intention to slight anyone ... we all have our own ways to live. Whatever way works for others is great. W(holistic) means taking into consideration all levels of living, not just how the physical affects life, but how the other levels of who we are are affected. Some people are perfectly happy and healthy being at a fast pace ... while others get stressed out at that same pace, and need to find their balance point.

That is why I like this game so much ... they move around at a leisurely pace, take time to relax, enjoy, have fun, as well as getting the laundry done, the huts fixed, the research studied, and the plants studied. Yes, you get an occasional runner, but he/she LIKES to do it, and one time, I was a little short on young doctors (most were reaching elderly age) so I set him to doctoring, and he was the quickest one to help if someone needed help and was very happy and healthy doing so and made master quicker than anyone else. I guess I'm just telling you a little personal info on how I like to go about my days :).

By the way, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
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#115205 - 01/01/08 02:37 PM Re: Getting a Master Doctor [Re: Rainbowlady333]
jolandet Offline
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Registered: 11/18/07
Posts: 33
And a very, very happy New Year to you!

No, I was sure you did not mean anything negative, but I was so interested in your view, and I was a little bit puzzled about what you said. I was interested, because I am developing some coaching/teaching/training-programmes for a "Re-integration-Bureau". This business was created, because in our country we have just a year ago implemented a totally new law for employees who get ill. Where I live,over the past ten years the views of what is to be called a sickness, and how it is to be treated have completely, completely changed. And for people that suffer from workaholic behaviour and get sick because of it, our doctors now advise: after a short rest, get back to work, even if you are not yet feeling well at all (either in your own company, or if the patient is not up to that yet, in a re-integrarion bureau) and by doing so, try to solve the workrelated problems.
The company the patient worked for when he/she got sick, has to pay the salary for two years and is during those two years fully responsible for a good programme of re-integration.
So that was the reason your post interested me so much.

I am very sorry you thought that I felt that there was something negative in your post: I must have formulated my post in a clumsy way.
So my goal for 2008: formulate better posts!

Looking forward to meeting you on the forum again.

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#115222 - 01/01/08 05:59 PM Re: Getting a Master Doctor [Re: jolandet]
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Registered: 08/25/07
Posts: 141
Loc: New Hampshire, USA
Happy New Year Everyone! \:\) Jolandet, Rainbowlady, what a good start to the New Year--seeing a possible misunderstanding resolved so quickly & kindly! And you've inspired me to try that method in my new village. I've always force-worked the poor little guys before. Training in building is easy in the beginning,(and I want those gong pieces, quick) but such a struggle after that. On real-life work styles: you can create a workaholic--the company I worked for made us work on quota, & it became such a race to meet goal each day, I would still be in "speed-mode" at bedtime! It was the same for my co-workers. It was very tiring, and the work was boring. It got so I was impatient in every aspect of my life--hurry, hurry! I'm retired now, & enjoy relaxing-I have plenty to do. Now I have to let my little people relax & enjoy their paradise.
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#115496 - 01/04/08 02:43 PM Re: Getting a Master Doctor [Re: Whimsey]
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Registered: 08/25/07
Posts: 141
Loc: New Hampshire, USA
Well, this is the result of the more relaxed training. I only selected task if they were falling behind in a specialty. 'Course sometimes their chosen task was "enjoy the pond"! ;\)
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#115558 - 01/05/08 09:24 AM Re: Getting a Master Doctor [Re: Whimsey]
Rainbowlady333 Offline
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Registered: 09/24/07
Posts: 149
Loc: MA
You know what's funny? Sometimes, they NEED direction or they get stressed out, too! I find that if I don't check off something, a few will wander about and be bored, or their life meter will go down ...

Well I guess like just in real life, some people need to be directed, while others are pretty much fine on their own. It is all on an individual basis, and no one way can be applied to everyone "in toto". I just have to be vigilant and aware and check up on them once in a while to see how it's going.

Hope everyone is having a great day!!
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#115560 - 01/05/08 10:41 AM Re: Getting a Master Doctor [Re: Keza132]
Rainbowlady333 Offline
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Registered: 09/24/07
Posts: 149
Loc: MA
One event has a sack with mice or ants that bite. You can get a head start on healers if you ... believe it or not ... drop the KIDS on a person who is sick from the bites, they will heal someone and they will gain some healing knowledge on their meters!!!! ALSO ... when someone is sick, drop ANY villager on them and they will not start kissing ... they too will heal the person, and they don't even have to be set on Healing to do so!!! (personally, I think it is good for everyone to have a little healing knowledge!!!)
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