I'm having a frustrating time getting my folks to get that third mastery. I had one master builder, master farmer who spent about 10 years researching before keeling over -- and never got past adept. (BTW, he was 65 when he died.)

I've got the same problem now with a female master farmer, almost master builder, whose bar on research is not budging at all, despite her being at the table.

The "cheat" makes sense, and I thank you for that. But does anyone have any ideas as to why I can't seem to get more than one esteemed elder? It's like they'll die before they get to that level. Do folks not "learn" any more once they hit 50?

Thanks.