Yikes! I tried it with an elder female and was so excited. Then I did it with an older female. Next I grabbed an older male - not an elder, made him an elder. But after I used him about 20 times my older female got pregnant and died. He went to wash off in the pond. So I stoppped that plan. It still intrigues me to try it some more. I had them on the beach away from the village center and could hear the kids laughing in the background. It was a hoot.