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#55853 - 02/20/07 02:30 PM [CONTAINS SPOILER] Masters
kira04 Offline
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Registered: 02/19/07
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For two days now, I been trying to get this girl and guy to become a master, and they won't. Grrr.


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#55861 - 02/20/07 02:44 PM Re: Masters [Re: kira04]
KimZ Offline
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Doesn't that drive you crazy! It seems going the last couple of centimeters to become a master takes an eternity. I was hoping to find a recipe to make the villagers learn faster. Anyone know of one? That would be great.
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#55919 - 02/20/07 04:04 PM Re: Masters [Re: KimZ]
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I feel your pain *sigh* Same here *sniff*
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#55934 - 02/20/07 04:32 PM Re: Masters [Re: Xay]
kira04 Offline
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I hope the two finally make master builders, then I would have two people with three masters, but it's taking forever. \:\(

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#55976 - 02/20/07 05:47 PM Re: Masters [Re: kira04]
Beenaberry Offline
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I'm convinced one of my tribe is glitched!!

It's taking FOREVER to get a Master builder, and there's too many adept scientists who are taking FOREVER to be Masters as well!!

Can Anyone HELP me out???

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#55979 - 02/20/07 06:01 PM Re: Masters [Re: Beenaberry]
kira04 Offline
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I have one adept scientist that are taking forever. I wonder if maybe there is a limit. Would explain why none of my adepts are becoming masters. Since I have 3 master builders and 2 master scientist.

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#55986 - 02/20/07 06:07 PM Re: Masters [Re: kira04]
TheVillageIdiot Offline
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There is no limit that I've found thus far. It just seems to take forever as they near the master level. Just keep them working!!
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#55991 - 02/20/07 06:19 PM Re: Masters [Re: TheVillageIdiot]
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But I've had Masters in all Skills before and they died because of starvation.... Is it because I've been time travelling with this particular tribe!??

I've got another tribe going and patiently not succumbing to time travel for this tribe and so far it's going better than the other "glitched" one...

Oh.... Please help..

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#55992 - 02/20/07 06:21 PM Re: Masters [Re: TheVillageIdiot]
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I've found getting my villagers to Master in Building and Healing takes the longest. I've found that it's best to start teens on it when they have no other skills, let them get to master, then put them on Research, then lastly Farming. I know that when I tried to finish off building skill on one of mine that had Farming and Research, she has never stayed on task long enough to Master it.
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#55995 - 02/20/07 06:24 PM Re: Masters [Re: Beenaberry]
Lythanda Offline
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Originally Posted By: Beenaberry
But I've had Masters in all Skills before and they died because of starvation.... Is it because I've been time travelling with this particular tribe!??

I've got another tribe going and patiently not succumbing to time travel for this tribe and so far it's going better than the other "glitched" one...

Oh.... Please help..


People have said repeatedly that time warping will mess up this game, not to mention your other time sensitive programs. Don't succumb to it and you shouldn't have many problems this time.

Read the warning posts here:
http://www.ldwforums.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=53311&page=1#Post53311
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#56157 - 02/20/07 10:18 PM Re: Masters [Re: Lythanda]
Corrin Offline
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They'll be dead before they become Master doctors. None of them will train on their own long and it takes too long to keep taking them around. This and how slow they are all walking is the biggest frustraion for me in vv2. Go runners!! They are the fastest stew makers too!
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#56198 - 02/20/07 11:29 PM Re: Masters [Re: Corrin]
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I am in despair!!!

One of my villagers was really close to Builder Master status when a new big building opportunity arose - I deliberately kept the levels of villagers low so that those involved would increase their skill levels quicker.

We have now completed the big project (Puzzle 11) and she STILL isn't a Master!! Her preference is set to builder.

I'm not sure she if she will be dead by the time she becomes a Master - or if I will!!!!!!

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#56199 - 02/20/07 11:32 PM Re: Masters [Re: Terwish]
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drop them on the huts to fix them...villagers gain skill this way too
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#56202 - 02/20/07 11:36 PM Re: Masters [Re: eyeshigh]
Terwish Offline
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Loc: London, England
Thanks Guru

But I have been doing this since we finished the big build - her progress bar just isn't moving - not during the whole Puzzle 11 development either.

Any other suggestions?

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#56211 - 02/20/07 11:54 PM Re: Masters [Re: Terwish]
eyeshigh Offline
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it can be done

it just takes a really really really really long time

it can take a lot of manual manipulations before anything changes

the only other thing I can suggest is to check building next to your villager and turn the game off for a few hours

check your log to see if any building progress is being attributed to your villager

i think they should still fix the huts while the game is off
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#56215 - 02/21/07 12:02 AM Re: Masters [Re: eyeshigh]
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Unfortunately, all of the builder activity isn't recorded in the log, so you'll have to rely on checking your villagers after you start the game back up. You can see indications that they are building, though, because injuries DO get recorded. \:\)
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#56219 - 02/21/07 12:10 AM Re: Masters [Re: LadyCFII]
eyeshigh Offline
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i remember reading that before lol

in vv1 i spent all my time trying to get rid of the builders, not get them to be masters lol
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#57009 - 02/21/07 11:20 PM Re: Masters [Re: eyeshigh]
Terwish Offline
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Well thanks for all your support - I finally got my villager to be a Master Builder - which also made her an Elder - aged 75.

The down side was that I think the hard work was to much for her she dropped dead immediately afterwards!

Now I feel really guilty for forcing an old lady to fix huts!!!

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#57393 - 02/22/07 03:28 PM Re: Masters [Re: eyeshigh]
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Originally Posted By: eyeshigh
i remember reading that before lol

in vv1 i spent all my time trying to get rid of the builders, not get them to be masters lol


I did the same thing in VV1, ended up not letting any of the females develop building skills past what they were born with. I nearly lost one of my villages to having almost all builders and no farmers. The skill hasn't completely died out, I let the guys still be builders. My male parent almost never has building in skills list though, healing and/or farming only, my females are the same. Pity that you can't keep scientist in VV1, glad that changed in VV2!
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#57408 - 02/22/07 04:06 PM Re: Masters [Re: Lythanda]
kitty128 Offline
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My problem is that, with any villager who has 2 masters, it's taking an eternity to master the 3rd skill. It's as if the game won't let them take that final half inch into master-dom. They stay on task, healthy and all that, but I just can't get an elder. Is this a glitch? If so, is someone working on a fix? I never had these problems with VV1.


Edited by kitty128 (02/22/07 04:07 PM)
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#57419 - 02/22/07 04:19 PM Re: Masters [Re: kitty128]
LadyCFII Administrator Offline
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Actually, you probably have never focused on the skill bar as closely in VV1 as you are now, since it was never important to make a master in 3 skills. \:\)

There is a confusing situation with the way that the skill bar works, which will be corrected in the update. That change will eliminate the apparent "overlap" between adept and master, and the bar will be easier to read.
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#58873 - 02/25/07 03:36 AM Re: Masters [Re: kitty128]
Lythanda Offline
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Originally Posted By: kitty128
My problem is that, with any villager who has 2 masters, it's taking an eternity to master the 3rd skill. It's as if the game won't let them take that final half inch into master-dom. They stay on task, healthy and all that, but I just can't get an elder. Is this a glitch? If so, is someone working on a fix? I never had these problems with VV1.


If building or healing is the 3rd skill, you will probably not make an elder out of this villager. I never could.

I start my teens with building or healing, then move them to research, then the last skill is farming. They don't seem to fight the skill changes quite so much when I do it this way.

Another way to make sure they stay on task is to make sure they are working on the skills you want them to when you log off the game. Your docs should be studying plants, builders should be fixing huts (if you're other projects are done), then log off quickly. They will gain skill faster if you don't watch them, something along the lines of the 'watched pot never boils' idea.

Good luck!
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#58942 - 02/25/07 09:00 AM Re: Masters [Re: Lythanda]
Calimero Offline
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Registered: 08/23/06
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Loc: Netherlands
The farming and research skill go quit easy. But the 3rd skill is staying difficult.
I'm gonna try your tip Lythanda. As I really would like that I get one villagers to get a Elder!!

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#59042 - 02/25/07 08:37 PM Re: Masters [Re: Calimero]
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I've been starting to do pretty much that, as well. Especially when trying to train a doctor, as I found that's the one way I could get them to keep studying plants, is if that's all they know to do.
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#59043 - 02/25/07 08:39 PM Re: Masters [Re: Calimero]
Calimero Offline
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Registered: 08/23/06
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Loc: Netherlands
Will there be placed a link on this forum when the update is available.
I find it very strange I have 1 villagers who is already busy to get master farmer since she is 65 and now she is 69. And she was already almost there when she was 65. :S

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#59045 - 02/25/07 08:46 PM Re: Masters [Re: Calimero]
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Yeah, that last skill can take years to master, once you get to the adept level... It's not a glitch, that's just how it happens some times. (Plus, different villagers have better aptitudes to different skills)
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#59187 - 02/26/07 01:55 AM Re: Masters [Re: Neddog]
keri Offline
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I'm trying something to try to get a Master Doc easier. I took a 2 year old with no skills and have turned him into an apprentice doc (bar about 1/2 way now). I made "sick" stew and kept getting everyone sick then had the little guy make everyone better. Hopefully this will give him a leg up on becoming a master.

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#59189 - 02/26/07 02:03 AM Re: Masters [Re: keri]
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Um, how can you make a 2 year old do all that?

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#59198 - 02/26/07 02:20 AM Re: Masters [Re: robynanne]
keri Offline
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Originally Posted By: robynanne
Um, how can you make a 2 year old do all that?

I am guessing when they are curious about the herbs, they a learning how to use them because children can heal. I tried it with one who was just about to be 3, never tried healing with a 2 year old who has just been released from their parent and hasn't had time to explore the island. Don't know if they an heal or not.

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#59216 - 02/26/07 03:13 AM Re: Masters [Re: keri]
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Any villager can heal another villager, no matter what their age!! So yes, this is perfectly plausible... I've never tried to get a child to grow in healing skills beyond a couple healings, but I see no reason why you couldn't.
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#59276 - 02/26/07 08:08 AM Re: Masters [Re: Neddog]
Calimero Offline
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Finally I succeed!! I have a esteemed elder.
But no totem now.

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#59485 - 02/26/07 09:36 PM Re: Masters [Re: Neddog]
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I'm having some difficulty getting my 3 remaining villagers(all of which are female) to the master builder level. I've built one hut and repaired the other one and am working on the sewing hut which is around 91-92% complete. All 3 females are adept builders, the eldest is close to becoming a master builder but I don't think she or the other two will make it before the hut is complete. And I need 3 master builders to open the crate on the beach.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that my eldest villager is in her early 50's while the other two are, I believe, in their 30's.


Edited by VrtlVillagerFan (02/26/07 09:51 PM)

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#59494 - 02/26/07 10:15 PM Re: Masters [Re: VrtlVillagerFan]
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If it doesn't happen yet, then get those near-masters to breed, and follow through on the next generation. There are still more building projects, and the further generations will pick up a lot faster. Unfortunately, the projects get staggered while you're catching up on tech points, so hopefully your timing will work out alright.
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#59585 - 02/27/07 01:22 AM Re: Masters [Re: Neddog]
VrtlVillagerFan Offline
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Originally Posted By: Neddog
If it doesn't happen yet, then get those near-masters to breed, and follow through on the next generation. There are still more building projects, and the further generations will pick up a lot faster. Unfortunately, the projects get staggered while you're catching up on tech points, so hopefully your timing will work out alright.


For me that is impossible since my 3 villagers are all female, so it seems as I'm "up the creek without a paddle" as the old saying goes. \:\( And I was looking forward to seeing what the Gong of Wonder does.

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#59659 - 02/27/07 03:13 AM Re: Masters [Re: VrtlVillagerFan]
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Actually, it should work for you to some degree -- the kids should still get some building skill from their moms, even if they don't get much from dad.

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#59662 - 02/27/07 03:14 AM Re: Masters [Re: squawky]
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or you could set there and watch them for a few hours and drag them onto your hut, so they will repair it for a bit of building experience.
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#59687 - 02/27/07 04:38 AM Re: Masters [Re: Trunks]
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wouldn't it help if you made an esteemed elder and then had then breed alot so that their children would be more likly to inherite their skills??

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#59771 - 02/27/07 01:43 PM Re: Masters [Re: hi1arious]
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Quick question:

Has the requirements for a Master gone up? I've noticed as of today, my scientists seem to be staying at adept for a LOT longer, the bar is almost at the end before they are Masters.

It seemed that they had less of the bar to fill to become Master than they do now...

Has anything changed?



All my scientists are like this and still adept ... it seemed to me in the past they would have been masters before.



Edited by Lady Emz (02/27/07 01:50 PM)
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#60608 - 03/01/07 09:35 AM Re: Masters [Re: kitty128]
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is any one having this problem, i have an elder who did not get a totem. i have look every where for her totem. To include moving the current totems to make sure that it is not hidden. another weird thing was my villagers cleared the mosaic and i was moving the totems over and i solved the puzzle only thing is when my villager picked up the gong piece half way to the encasement they lost it. i had to restart the game and redo the puzzle to get the piece again. if it makes a difference it was an elder that pick up the piece.
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#61939 - 03/04/07 03:31 AM [SPOILER] Re: Masters [Re: soldiergirl]
VrtlVillagerFan Offline
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Registered: 02/26/07
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Loc: Oklahoma
I finally got the 3 master builders I needed to open the crate on my latest attempt. I"m now working on getting 150,000 tech pts so I can buy lv3 Culture and get the final piece of the gong.


Edited by LadyCFII (03/04/07 04:11 AM)

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