Thank you for the guidance, TVI. Some of us Newbies can get lost in the labyrinth of posts. I figured there was some competative corporate shenanigans going on, which is disappointing but unfortunately not surprising. The VV board was the best one on RA, and it seems churlish of them to take it down. I suppose this means they won't be offering VV2 which is their loss. I see they've also taken down Mystery Case files, although they offer Paparzzi which is riddled with glitches. I think it's time to leave RA behind!