I mean no offense either.

Once something happens, its hard to go back to the way it was, although it may still get better. People only recently began posting every day in topics instead of who am I. A member(s) has been told change would happen two months ago, it still hasn't. It's hard to ask calmly when you get the run around repeadetly. Apparently one of the mods has called a member a liar. He has taken a break now to think this through, which I think will help the forums. The mods and admins are to busy to allow dangerously funny moments. I have doubts that the long lost members will come back, simply because they were gone before this took place. Sometimes, fighting fire with fire lets the other side see that your ideas, or "fire" is something they never thought of. I'll say sorry when I see change happinging, the only change I've seen in the past month or two is the posts per day dropping very rapidly. The niceties should be provided by the people who start the problem. I don't know how all the pm's went, but I believe gamey was polite in his post. CC, I'm not sure this will be ending any time soon.

Im not done posting until I see some change,
Luke.