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#21641 - 05/29/06 05:58 PM Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Arthur Administrator Offline
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Village Sim for Desktop will be called Virtual Villagers!

It has not been easy to commit to a new name, but we felt it was necessary for various reasons. We chose this name because it represents what the game is really about -- the Villagers themselves.

The forums will show both names to try to reduce confusion.

On a side-note, we are more than 90% done, we are adding new puzzles, and beta is fast approaching. We are definitely having fun working on this one, and we hope you guys have even more fun playing it!

Comments are welcome.
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#21642 - 05/29/06 10:58 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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WOOHOOOOOOO
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#21643 - 05/30/06 01:58 AM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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woohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


Edited by rabbit345985 (05/30/06 01:58 AM)

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#21644 - 05/30/06 09:31 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Looking forward to seeing the game finally come out!
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#21645 - 05/31/06 10:20 AM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Buttoneer Offline
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I quite like the new name. I can imagine that the 'Sim' bit might have got you into some hot water from EA/Maxis so in the circumstances it's understandable that you had to make the change.

Of course you could always have taken a leaf out of the Japanese book of doing things (Pokemon=Pocket Monster and Famicom = Family Computer) and called it Vim...

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#21646 - 05/31/06 10:39 AM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Quote:

On a side-note, we are more than 90% done, we are adding new puzzles, and beta is fast approaching. We are definitely having fun working on this one, and we hope you guys have even more fun playing it!

Comments are welcome.




This here is the best part! New puzzels! I can't wait!
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#21647 - 05/31/06 12:58 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
aoh Offline
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Registered: 04/16/05
Posts: 486
Loc: Dublin, Ireland
Please, please, please can I be part of beta again - this has to be my favourite game on my Palm and I can't wait to see the PC version.

Please, please, please

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#21648 - 05/31/06 04:24 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Registered: 01/09/06
Posts: 207
Loc: NW Indiana
I'm soooooooooo happy my computer is a laptop, and I'll be able to tote the Virtual Villagers everywhere with me! I've not played the Palm version, so this will be all new and wonderful!!! Can't wait!!!!!!

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#21649 - 06/01/06 07:33 AM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
fssia Offline
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Registered: 10/11/04
Posts: 431
Loc: Brunei
Woohoo! I thought I missed it! Have been away on training for 3 weeks.

Lets hope you guys will be doing beta testing after 14th June cuz I will hate to miss it!

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#21650 - 06/01/06 08:51 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Loc: Mexico City, Mexico
Kudos! Are you ready to begin showing your strongest card to the world? Are you ready to be prized?
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#21651 - 06/03/06 06:56 AM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
fssia Offline
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Quote:

Kudos! Are you ready to begin showing your strongest card to the world? Are you ready to be prized?


You just lost me there!

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#21652 - 06/03/06 09:25 AM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Quote:

Quote:

Kudos! Are you ready to begin showing your strongest card to the world? Are you ready to be prized?


You just lost me there!




I'm with ya fssia! I know I'm the Village Idiot and all, but I have no clue as to what he speakes about.
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#21653 - 06/04/06 01:42 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Arthur Administrator Offline
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Quote:

Kudos! Are you ready to begin showing your strongest card to the world? Are you ready to be prized?




I understand what Archmage is saying. Kind words, and yes we are ready and excited!
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#21654 - 06/06/06 04:37 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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I check everyday, eek! when is it comeing out? I hope it's before July at least, I'm leaving for a week where there won't be internet and would love to play it while there.

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#21655 - 06/06/06 04:43 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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I check everyday, eek! when is it comeing out? I hope it's before July at least, I'm leaving for a week where there won't be internet and would love to play it while there.




I'm not part LDW, but I would venture to guess the final product will not be ready before July. As far as I know they have not even released the beta for testing yet.
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#21656 - 06/06/06 07:18 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Arthur Administrator Offline
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We're really close to beta. In fact every week we seem to be about a week away.
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#21657 - 06/07/06 03:34 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
TheVillageIdiot Offline
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Quote:

We're really close to beta. In fact every week we seem to be about a week away.




Thanks for the update! I hope a week away hurry ups and gets here.
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#21658 - 06/07/06 04:22 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Yea im pretty excited too to test this game out and see how it compares to the palm version. Only a week away sounds great, can't wait. Good job developers!
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#21659 - 06/12/06 01:44 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Will everyone be able to beta test or only a select few? I would love to beta test the game if possible, heck I just can't wait to get my hands on the game!

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#21660 - 06/12/06 02:26 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Will everyone be able to beta test or only a select few? I would love to beta test the game if possible, heck I just can't wait to get my hands on the game!




You can get info HERE.

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#21661 - 06/12/06 03:04 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Posts: 17515
Loc: Colorado
You must apply and be selected as a beta tester in order to participate in a beta test. We are currently reworking our process for beta tester selection, so I'll just send you a PM with some instructions about how to apply to be a tester.
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#21662 - 06/12/06 06:00 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Posts: 163
Loc: Mexico City, Mexico
Quote:

Quote:

Kudos! Are you ready to begin showing your strongest card to the world? Are you ready to be prized?




I understand what Archmage is saying. Kind words, and yes we are ready and excited!




Oh my... I think that i said it a bit... (a lot) confusing. But, oh, i got too excited to see FT in Game Spot... And to read that Virtual Villagers is almost done...

Kind words: Only maybe dreaming. But... LDW not started as a dream? A dream, only like Ibel Started? (If i continue talking in chinese i'm sorry...)
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#21663 - 06/13/06 11:37 AM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Loc: Utah
95% almost done yay!!!!

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#21664 - 06/14/06 12:08 AM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Thiris Offline
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Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 214
Loc: Utah
i want to be a beta sadly am not 18

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#21665 - 06/15/06 04:59 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Loc: Mexico City, Mexico
You're not the only one...
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#21666 - 06/16/06 11:40 AM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Registered: 06/16/06
Posts: 2
Loc: Louisville, Ky
Quote:

You must apply and be selected as a beta tester in order to participate in a beta test. We are currently reworking our process for beta tester selection, so I'll just send you a PM with some instructions about how to apply to be a tester.




Are you guys still accepting beta testers? I would be happy to help.

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#21667 - 06/16/06 12:56 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
LadyCFII Administrator Offline
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Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17515
Loc: Colorado
We never stop accepting applications for beta testers! Until we get the new process in place, anyone who wishes to apply to become a beta tester should send me a Private Message. That way we don't fill up this thread with requests!

Since you asked here, I'll send you a PM with the details of how to apply.
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#21668 - 06/16/06 01:15 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Im so excited i can hardly contain myself....
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#21669 - 06/16/06 02:12 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Registered: 06/16/06
Posts: 2
Loc: Louisville, Ky
Quote:

We never stop accepting applications for beta testers! Until we get the new process in place, anyone who wishes to apply to become a beta tester should send me a Private Message. That way we don't fill up this thread with requests!

Since you asked here, I'll send you a PM with the details of how to apply.




Ok thanks!

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#21670 - 06/18/06 09:33 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Arthur Administrator Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 2729
Loc: San Francisco
The game is really getting close now! We're having so much fun with it and it is running great on both PC and Mac. We are looking forward to starting beta, likely very early next week.

More announcements about V V are coming soon, maybe even a release date.
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#21671 - 06/19/06 10:34 AM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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i wonder if the kids still pee in the garden, its no wonder it took so long to grow with pure water after it was contaminated so long by the kids *chuckles*.

Can't wait
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#21672 - 06/20/06 07:22 AM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
gamerallover Offline
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Registered: 06/02/05
Posts: 4
its been so long i cant wait still been checking everyday since i noticed that village sim i mean vitural sim was coming out

O yeah when i mensioned turning village sim to pc which was when you guys were first thinking of fish tycoon you said it problaby wouldnt be done

heh i knew you could do it

omg 4 posts wow i will post more its just i dont have a palm os or pocket pc lol


Edited by gamerallover (06/20/06 07:24 AM)

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#21673 - 06/20/06 01:52 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Registered: 10/08/04
Posts: 289
Loc: L.A., CA
Sounds great, as usual!!!!
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#21674 - 06/21/06 05:10 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Arthur Administrator Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 2729
Loc: San Francisco
We are in beta now and it is going very well. The game has literally not crashed for anyone (knock on wood!), and everyone seems to be enjoying it so far.

I'll keep ya posted here!
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#21675 - 06/25/06 02:06 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
cobug Offline
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Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 182
Yes, it has been going very well. The only problem I ran into was one of my forgetfullness. I turned it on fast last night and forgot to turn it off fast. After being on fast for 12 hours I returned to find all my villagers dead. Ah the joys of poor memory.

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#21676 - 06/30/06 03:52 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
George_N Offline
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Registered: 06/30/06
Posts: 3
Loc: So Cali
Kool so we kept with the same time constraints as Fish Tycoon
you guys do awesome work
small bugs to the beta group.
chomping at the bit in anticipation....

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#21677 - 07/09/06 06:05 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Gemelle Offline
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Registered: 05/21/05
Posts: 270
Loc: California
Congrats to Arthur and the LDW Team on another game! Can't wait for the Virtual Villagers to come out. I'm happy to hear that it will have new puzzles too!

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#21678 - 07/13/06 05:45 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
norahrose Offline
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Registered: 07/13/06
Posts: 20
Loc: Wisconsin
Having never played the Palm version, I wasn't entirely sure what to expect, but I bought Virtual Villagers today and am already obsessed. I think people are avoiding my office now after hearing me mutter, "Research faster, Mamba!" several times.

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#21679 - 07/13/06 06:15 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
TheVillageIdiot Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 2638
Loc: Island of Isola
I know anyone who likes sim games will fall in love with VV as Norahose has. I know I have!
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#21680 - 07/13/06 07:15 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Registered: 10/11/04
Posts: 2
Loc: Missouri
Count me in too!! I have a brand new Satellite and can't wait to get started! I have just about worn out Fish, Plants, & Village Sim on my Zire!

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#21681 - 07/14/06 05:53 AM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Aly Offline
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Registered: 07/14/06
Posts: 1
Quote:

Having never played the Palm version, I wasn't entirely sure what to expect, but I bought Virtual Villagers today and am already obsessed. I think people are avoiding my office now after hearing me mutter, "Research faster, Mamba!" several times.




So is it out now then? If not is there a date set for release?

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#21682 - 07/14/06 10:24 AM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
norahrose Offline
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Registered: 07/13/06
Posts: 20
Loc: Wisconsin
I got it early because I'm a member at Big Fish Games. They say it'll be released on their website on Saturday (tomorrow).

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#21683 - 07/14/06 01:32 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
naama Offline
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Registered: 07/14/06
Posts: 3
I also downloaded it from Bigfish Games. And really enjoy it so far. One question (so far): There is an option to update the score via the Internet, i.e. to check the score vs. the other players, however when using this option it does seem to work and I'm presented with a question whether I'm connecting to the Internet (which of course I am). Just wondering if this option to check/update score vs. other players actually works.

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#21684 - 07/14/06 01:41 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
TheVillageIdiot Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 2638
Loc: Island of Isola
It should be working, you might want to check your firewall settings. I have a feeling it is stopping you. Just a guess.
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#21685 - 07/14/06 02:10 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Arthur Administrator Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 2729
Loc: San Francisco
We will make our full announcements here today/tomorrow, and notify the people who have requested to be notified the second it goes live.

Big Fish has negotiated a few perks for themselves for being our publisher and one is that they get to invite a few people to a prerelease of the game about 24hrs before it comes out.
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#21686 - 07/14/06 02:12 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Carla Administrator Offline
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Registered: 10/05/04
Posts: 784
Loc: Italy
The high scores page doesn't work yet. We are working on this as fast as we can.


Edited by Carla (07/14/06 02:12 PM)
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#21687 - 07/14/06 02:56 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
naama Offline
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Registered: 07/14/06
Posts: 3
Thank you for the fast reply regarding the high score page. Actually I tried it again, and this time it did update my scores. I also just bought the full version

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#21688 - 07/14/06 03:06 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Carla Administrator Offline
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Registered: 10/05/04
Posts: 784
Loc: Italy
Ok. The high scores page works. Here is the link: http://www.ldwsoftware.com/vv_win_scores/index.php

We are ordering the scores by number of babies. Lets see if this works and if you are all happy with this. I will probably try to add a few more stats in there.

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#21689 - 07/14/06 03:38 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
TheVillageIdiot Offline
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Sweet!!


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#21690 - 07/14/06 04:38 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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Posts: 2638
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Upon reviewing the stat page, can I through out some comments? Thanks! Since population can only go to 92, I’m not sure it means that much to be on the leader board, if you know what I mean. I would like to see puzzles solved, crabs caught and mushrooms picked as well. If you could only add one, I would go with mushrooms, since it is not all that easy to get them. What do you think?
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#21691 - 07/14/06 04:42 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
TheVillageIdiot Offline
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Posts: 2638
Loc: Island of Isola
Also, I have several spots under "Village Idiot Yahooooie". I've only used that name in one file (Build3), so I'm not sure why it is listed several places. You might want to take a look at that.
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#21692 - 07/14/06 05:18 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Arthur Administrator Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 2729
Loc: San Francisco
We will definitely play around with the leaderboard. It's tricky thing to apply this kind of game to a leaderboard since there is no one true 'score'.
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#21693 - 07/14/06 05:29 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
TheVillageIdiot Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 2638
Loc: Island of Isola
I'm with ya, and am not too concerned about ranking. It would have to be how you have it, or by food or tech points. Nothing else really makes sense. I know you have other fish to fry at this time, but Carla asked, and it is not polite to "ignore" someone.


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#21694 - 07/14/06 05:37 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Arthur Administrator Offline
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LOL your smileys are getting more elaborate every minute.
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#21695 - 07/14/06 05:44 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
TheVillageIdiot Offline
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Posts: 2638
Loc: Island of Isola


It is a work in progress.

Oh, and u can thank Barbra for that as well.


Edited by TheVillageIdiot (07/14/06 05:48 PM)
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#21696 - 08/06/06 10:29 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Dar Offline
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Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
I am so in love with this game that I paid full price for it from Reflexive instead of waiting till I could get it free with my Game Pass from Real Arcade.
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#21697 - 08/09/06 10:27 AM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Camaron Offline
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Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 24
Loc: I'm a Dutchy
Just got the full version and hooked allready.
But only getting few puzzles done and then the little peeps die on me. Just before I get to the point where I get enough tech points to go to level 3 farming grmbl*&@#! Very frustrating! (I'm loving it!)
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#21698 - 08/22/06 02:44 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
TrayC Offline
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I've completed the game but I still love messing with the little guys. Why not have a high score based on how fast you can complete all the puzzles (preferably on hard). That would give those of us who have finished a new challenge.

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#21699 - 08/22/06 06:35 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
danalmillan Offline
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Registered: 08/21/06
Posts: 29
Loc: Kentucky
I have too, I am however keeping my game running just to see what happens. It is fun to go back in to a new game and challenge to do something different. I love this game! Can't wait for VV 2!!!
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#21700 - 09/05/06 04:31 AM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Felice Offline
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i never played the palm, but i looooooove the desktop version!
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#21701 - 09/07/06 10:22 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
steve_kunkel Offline
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Registered: 01/17/06
Posts: 26
Loc: NW Washington
VERY COOL!!! I just today (9-7-06) logged on after being gone for a while and what a cool surprise: Virtual Villagers !! I guess now that I'm already long-since hooked on VilageSim, there's no point in resisting VV... Hey though, any chance of a discount for folks who have registered VS in the last 12 or 18 months please-please??? Worth the extra 20 clams one way or the other !!! ;o) -steve

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#21702 - 09/07/06 10:29 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
LadyCFII Administrator Offline
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Carla posted about that early this year. I know that people who signed up to be notified about Virtual Villagers received emails regarding discounts, etc. I'm guessing that you didn't get one of those emails, so filling out a support form is probably your best option.
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#21703 - 09/07/06 10:49 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
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HOW DO WE BECOME A BETA TESTER??!!!!!!

PICK ME, PICK ME!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#21704 - 09/08/06 01:13 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Felice Offline
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Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 57
Loc: Peoria, IL, USA
OHH! PICK ME TOO!!!!
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#21705 - 09/08/06 01:57 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
TheVillageIdiot Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
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Loc: Island of Isola
Click here if you want to apply for LDW beta tester program.
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#21706 - 09/08/06 02:05 PM Re: Announcing: Virtual Villagers
Felice Offline
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Awesome! <sighs> my hero...
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