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#212580 - 11/15/09 08:55 PM how to avoid interbreeding?
mariposa03 Offline
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Registered: 10/08/09
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I read somewhere that giving them surnames can avoid kids having kids with their parents, but how would that work exactly?
Just started new game, and gave each individual a surname...then what? So say Phillip Fry and Amy Wong have a kid...how do i avoid that kid getting together with its parents? confused

Any help would be appreciated! thanks xoxo cool

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#212704 - 11/22/09 05:07 PM Re: how to avoid interbreeding? [Re: mariposa03]
Tralah Offline
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Registered: 03/18/07
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Here's some tactics that I use, but it takes some work on your part.

I never have a VV selected on "parenting", and when I'm trying to get them to mate, I always select the mother. I try to give the VV another primary skill like farming or research so parenting isn't the only one they have skills in. It won't 100% stop them breeding on their own, but it does drastically cut down. In my last game that went on for many generations I only had a parent breed with a child once without my prompting.

I enjoyed keeping an extensive family tree and wrote down who the parents were of each child, so I could remember when they grew up. Since I wrote down that information, I never bothered to give them surnames, so I'm not sure how that would work. Your Phillip Fry and Amy Wong would have a daughter named Lucy Fry-Wong? Then Lucy would mate with a VV whose name is John Green-Smith, so what surname would you pass on to THEIR child? Sara Fry-Wong-Green-Smith, sounds a bit cumbersome to me LOL, but maybe someone else who has used surnames can tell us how they did it.

Anyway, by the time the person has reached 18, hopefully they have been training in something (other than parenting) since they turned 13. I look over my family tree and try to pick out mates for the new 18-year-old who are, of course not their parents. Then I exclude full siblings, and half siblings. I will sometimes try and even exclude cousins, aunts/uncles, but usually it's impossible to be that picky early on in the game. When you start out with such a small number, you might have to do the occasional half sibling or even full sibling pairing.

When you begin the game, one thing that helps me the most is to mate each woman with each man at least once. This gives you the widest possible pool to pair up the next generation. So for example if you start out with 4 women and 3 men. Those four women will have at least three children each with a different father if possible. It can be real tough to pull that off in the beginning of the game, but if you manage it, that gives you 12 people for the second generation to try and match up.


Edited by Tralah (11/22/09 05:09 PM)

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#212712 - 11/23/09 06:38 AM Re: how to avoid interbreeding? [Re: Tralah]
red3080 Offline
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Registered: 09/30/09
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Loc: Victoria Australia
in the first parograph the bit were it said
Your Phillip Fry and Amy Wong would have a daughter named Lucy Fry-Wong? Then Lucy would mate with a VV whose name is John Green-Smith, so what surname would you pass on to THEIR child? Sara Fry-Wong-Green-Smith, sounds a bit cumbersome to me LOL, but maybe someone else who has used surnames can tell us how they did it.

you can't keep going Fry-Wong-Green-Smith because u only have a limited amount of space
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#212714 - 11/23/09 07:31 AM Re: how to avoid interbreeding? [Re: red3080]
Becca123 Offline
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Registered: 12/28/07
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Why don't you just give each villager a letter as a last name.
Eg, Amy W and Phillip F. Then their child would be called Lucy WF. And her kid could be called Sara WFMJ or something. If it gets too big for the space, you could just delete the first letter or two. Unless you are extremely worried that two people are breeding because their Great-greay-great-great grandfathers were related.

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#212777 - 11/25/09 07:32 AM Re: how to avoid interbreeding? [Re: Becca123]
red3080 Offline
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Registered: 09/30/09
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Loc: Victoria Australia
well what i would do is to half and half or combined the to words like fry and amy could be framy famy could be anything and maybe only use 3 or 4 letter word


Edited by red3080 (11/25/09 07:34 AM)
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#213321 - 12/14/09 08:55 PM Re: how to avoid interbreeding? [Re: red3080]
pwrpffgrl Offline
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Registered: 12/08/09
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Here's an example of the way I do it: I have Blaze & Mikira mate and the kid is Taco Blaze-Mikira then he mates with Lilli Leo-Hope and the kid is City Taco-Lilli.
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#213334 - 12/15/09 02:58 AM Re: how to avoid interbreeding? [Re: pwrpffgrl]
Nora Willow Offline
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Registered: 04/04/09
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Umm.. I know youll not understand this well (maybe you will)but If your mother had triplets and two married each other and had a son and the third triplet was a daughter and she married the two's son and they had a child and they all had surnames like Welch,Eylon,Lochness,Crayon,Opal,Melchedesic,and Emrald what would it spell? laugh Im just being funny here... dont try to answer it might hurt your head XD.
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#213348 - 12/15/09 01:55 PM Re: how to avoid interbreeding? [Re: Nora Willow]
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Registered: 12/28/08
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Wait, actually i didn't understand above, but are it just about name? As far as i understand, you don't want a child (from a couple of your villager) mate/going indoors with their mommy or daddy. Is it right? If its not, please give me detailed explanations smile.

If its right, it won't affect anything, right. In the game, even if you have a child with your dad/mom won't affect anything on the child. So, whats the goal?? I think I have no problems in breeding or parenting.

If you try to stop your population from increasing, it is quite hard. when you have lots of villager with even a little parenting skill, they will breed excessively (when there is a good amount of hut and food source). If you have 25 populations, and all of the parents die, don't do anything, i think. But, no way, it still not working. Some children have little skill (maybe resemble their parents' skill) and they will preferred to it. But, don't worry, your population will STOP INCREASING WHEN IT REACHES 100.

The things that I hate when my population reaches 100 is its hard to find the tribal chief. I like tribal chief, cause he/she can do anything like point new collectible (i've fully researched all techs), do a weather dance, lecture children etc.

And, i actually dont understand what you want, so tell me the right one. smile




Edited by invalidthirteen (12/15/09 02:06 PM)
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#226790 - 01/05/11 01:03 PM Re: how to avoid interbreeding? [Re: invalidthirteen]
they8pizza Offline
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Registered: 12/30/10
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Loc: Wisconsin
I know this is a kinda old thread, but incase others are wondering the same thing I might have a soloution. You could always try it like it would be in the real world. Like take(using the original names for lack of original ideas for that at the moment) Phillip Fry and Amy Wong and "marry" them. So then you'd have Phillip Fry and Amy Fry. Then they have a kid who gets the same last name and for each marriage the last name of the female gets changed to the last name of the male. That would probably be the best bet in my opinion.
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#226860 - 01/06/11 01:35 AM Re: how to avoid interbreeding? [Re: they8pizza]
Casey Lynn Offline
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Registered: 07/30/10
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What I do is just keep family trees, that way I can keep track of how people are related, (and plus, I love looking at family trees, real or not. I must have about 30 of them from various VV games, by now). I also put down their father's first name as their last name, and if it's a girl I throw in the mom's name as a middle name, just to be fair to mommy. wink
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