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#21151 - 05/03/06 10:37 AM
HELP!!! Food Shortage can't keep up!!
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Legend
Registered: 05/01/06
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I don't know what im doing wrong. At one point i had 1800 food. I have had no bad disasters, i even had a good one where a monkey was caught trying to steal and we found his banana stash. But I have 5 farmers for the one farm i have. And i have 14 people, all grown but 2 kids and a baby. 5 Farmers 5 Researchers (few are crosstrained builders/master builders who do work when needed) but my food is down to 100 and the Farm doesnt seem to produce even enough for 14 people. How on earth could you ever get to 65 villagers when the only source of food is one farm plot. I have level 2 everything and working toward Harvest level 3 to get fishing, but it will be awhile i have 23,000 tech points and i think i need 50,000. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. PS My garden finally bloomed, took forever. Is there any hints for farming, or maybe somehow to get a second farm or something because i just cant keep enough food and the berry bush has 1 berry on it (has since before i even got the farm i dunno how its still got a berry left.) Please respond quickly if anyone has tips/suggestions!!! 
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#21152 - 05/03/06 10:50 AM
Re: HELP!!! Food Shortage can't keep up!!
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Legend
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I had to pause until i get some feedback, i have 8 food left and the Farm still hasnt grown a crop. Sigh...i dunno what to do, i have a lot of time over the past few days put into this i dont wanna start over.  Help me pleaseeee. Wheres god mode when you need it (old die hard gamer lol  )
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#21153 - 05/03/06 10:59 AM
Re: HELP!!! Food Shortage can't keep up!!
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
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Loc: Colorado
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The farm was never intended to support 65 villagers - that's why there's another level of Harvesting technology!  Your population is pushing the limits of how many villagers can be fed from the farm's produce. I normally don't go beyond 12 villagers until my villagers know how to fish, unless I've decided to flirt with disaster. You can always choose to play in such a way that your villagers are frequently on the brink of starvation, in order to have more villagers working on things. There is a certain sense of satisfaction when they are saved from starvation in the nick of time. Your villagers won't die right away when they run out of food, since it takes some time to starve to death!  Once your villagers know how to fish, food will never be an issue, as long as you have a sufficient number of them working on the food supply. Most experienced players seem to choose to research all of the levels of Harvesting as quickly as possible, so that food is not an issue and research goes much faster with the larger population that fishing allows.
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#21156 - 05/03/06 12:06 PM
Re: HELP!!! Food Shortage can't keep up!!
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Legend
Registered: 05/01/06
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Yes i am beginning to see that regardless how many people watering, it wont be faster. So esseintially while its growing, only one farmer is necessary. Is this a correct assumption? But once its grown, you can have 8 harvesters to harvest faster? I pulled most of my farmers off and put them on research. Sadly i dont think they will make it. Im up to 28000 tech and im still 22000 short of level 3. At least my beach is clean and ready to go when i hit level 3 harvest. Maybe with 7 researchers i will get there soon! My first old woman died.
As a side not for an improvement. I notice the tombstone only says what they were when they died. She was a Master Scientist, Trainee Farmer, Adept Parent, but the tombstone only says Trainee Farmer. Would it be possible to put all the stats for them on the stone so you could see who was your most skilled person? That would be a good idea at least i think so.
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#21160 - 05/03/06 01:55 PM
Re: HELP!!! Food Shortage can't keep up!!
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Legend
Registered: 05/01/06
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*Passes out...*
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#21161 - 05/03/06 01:57 PM
Re: HELP!!! Food Shortage can't keep up!!
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Legend
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What i dont understand is all morning on fast for probably 6 hours and i have not had a crop yet, and ive been at 0 for over an hour now. Shouldn't i have had at least 1 by now...
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#21162 - 05/03/06 02:24 PM
Re: HELP!!! Food Shortage can't keep up!!
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
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Loc: Colorado
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Well, that depends. The farm is a complicated thing, and can be affected by many different factors resulting from game play styles. I won't divulge all of the inner workings of the farm here, but I can offer some general tips: Changing game speed and pausing the game for long periods of time, to name two things, can influence the crop cycles in ways that create stress for the person holding the stylus.  Also, in general, it's a bad idea to switch from a slower game speed to a faster game speed while the farm is empty. And, finally, if your peeps are ever in a food crisis before you have fishing, switching the game back to slow speed until the crops appear can help the villagers survive.
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#21163 - 05/03/06 02:27 PM
Re: HELP!!! Food Shortage can't keep up!!
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Legend
Registered: 05/01/06
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Well Food popped up about the same time i hit 50,000, 3 people died (all masters dangit) and everyone is weakened. Hopefully with food they will now start to get better but i fear more will die before they heal.
You cannot heal a weakened player i take it since it says embracing when you try?
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#21164 - 05/03/06 02:46 PM
Re: HELP!!! Food Shortage can't keep up!!
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Newbie
Registered: 04/29/06
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I went through the same thing (I had over 3000 in food and they went through it very very fast). Thereafter had like three years of famine where they ran out of food constantly. They had to be monitored closely to keep them working on productive stuff and during crop season everyone harvest as fast as possible (if you drag them instead of letting them walk, they harvest more) PLUS forage until the berries ran out. I had to change their skills back and forth to the needed focus (food sometimes, research sometimes). They still ran out of food each year: several got very weakened plus two of my oldsters died, but they managed to get enough tech points to finally buy level 3. Thereafter all the weakened people got healthy again, except the oldsters who still hung in about 4 more years but then died. The game just seems to build this crisis in unless you save up and spend all your points on harvesting research. As others have noted, the safest way to play the game is to do that first. I noticed that putting the game on SLOW and going to sleep will generally give you enough points in the AM to buy the level you need, with SOME villagers still alive. The weakened ones can hang on quite a long time, and even when they go RED they can still reproduce! I had one elderly red give birth to two children in her 60's. In fact, they seem healthier when pregnant. After you get food back, keep the weakened ones eating. Health improves if they switch jobs occasionally, and farming seems very good for their health.
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#21165 - 05/03/06 02:48 PM
Re: HELP!!! Food Shortage can't keep up!!
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17515
Loc: Colorado
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Doctors can treat only the villagers who are actually "Sick." You might want to check out this post, which contains some general (non-spoiler) tips on Village Sim.
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#21168 - 05/03/06 06:59 PM
Re: HELP!!! Food Shortage can't keep up!!
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Legend
Registered: 05/01/06
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Ok well everything is on track now. Boy that fishing realy does help. when i play on the next difficulty i will definately get fishing before i go over 12. I have over 2000 food again and 4 preg women, up to almost 20 people now, things are really cruising now. Also there was a "special fish" found that did "something" (dont want to spoil it) in my lagoon that was pretty cool. Glad i havent had any bad events yet other than a spunky monkey that killed someone. well hope i wasnt annoying you will be hearing a lot from me i like to be active i wish other people talked more. Its fun to share progress with people. anyone wanna trade hints or just chat about their running game? On a side note need a beta tester for windows version  . I volunteer if you do.  Happy villaging
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