Thanks for the confirmations, Di and Arnie. I believed you, Di, but was questioned for putting it into the guide without proof. So, I'm a bit hesitant to do it again. I think most are skeptical because the cutoff for VV is 50. I'm still trying with my difficult couples, because I think Arnie's theory is most likely. I'll grab a screenie if it ever happens, but I doubt I'll get that lucky.