thanks sooooo much Barbara! right after i did that for PT my VF stopped working. i called my brother-in-law down begging him to help, i was in tears because i had been working on them for over a month and had over 80 trophies in all families. he tried restarting my PC and everything. nothing worked and i was about to go crazy. than i remembered about PT so i tried it with VF and it worked. i was soooo happy, and i just thought id write and let u know u not only saved my plants but u also saved my families! ty!