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#192690 - 05/09/09 02:16 AM Time can go faster!
csl Offline
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Just adjust the PC time, I normally turn an hour each time, that will get more chances to receive the email that come with rewards!

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#192701 - 05/09/09 03:00 AM Re: Time can go faster! [Re: csl]
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BUT it can mess up your game AND certain programs on your computer! I DO NOT advise it.
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#192702 - 05/09/09 03:07 AM Re: Time can go faster! [Re: csl]
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Time travel is considered to be cheating, and is not encouraged, nor is it supported if it messes up your computer or the game.

Originally Posted By: LDW Support FAQ
While that sort of "time travel" is a popular way to speed up game play, real-time games rely on the accuracy of the computer's system clock to operate properly. Unpredictable results can occur if adjustments are made to the clock, especially moving the clock backwards in time.
While many people do adjust their system clocks to speed up play, doing so affects far more than just the games. Every application in your computer is affected, including the file system and Windows system applications. For all of those reasons, we do not recommend changing your computer's system clock to speed up game play.



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#192721 - 05/09/09 05:05 AM Re: Time can go faster! [Re: Xay]
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As the above posts, I agree, if I did it I would feel like I was cheating and feel I am not really connecting with my little people. Get what I mean? Lol.

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#192756 - 05/09/09 01:12 PM Re: Time can go faster! [Re: KaeChan]
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I like the slow pace. This is not a game where speed is necessary.

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#192909 - 05/10/09 04:05 AM Re: Time can go faster! [Re: Jo5329]
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I will freely admit I time travel and don't feel it's cheating at all. I've done it to make store restocks faster, to hurry to the next generation, and to force faster marriage proposals. It gets boring waiting for these things.
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#193144 - 05/11/09 09:36 AM Re: Time can go faster! [Re: Jami]
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#193180 - 05/11/09 05:10 PM Re: Time can go faster! [Re: Kitaelia]
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lol i used to time travel when i was first playing vv. sometimes, i would wake up to a village of little skeletons.
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#193188 - 05/11/09 06:23 PM Re: Time can go faster! [Re: dmbson]
Indra Offline
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Registered: 08/23/06
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VV had an option of chosing fast or slow, ofcourse it did not move as fast as time travel but maybe if VF had that option it would help those of us who lack the patience virtue. I did find that Outlook gave me errors when I tried to timetravel and check e-mail. I had to uninstall and re-install so, I stopped doing it.

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#193221 - 05/11/09 11:03 PM Re: Time can go faster! [Re: dmbson]
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Originally Posted By: dmbson
lol i used to time travel when i was first playing vv. sometimes, i would wake up to a village of little skeletons.

I had that problem a lot, especially as I played on my Palm device, and more recently, my Ipod...I sometimes leave these devices alone for a few days and forget I did not pause the villagers! shocked
Still, I wouldn't mind the option to play at a faster speed, although it seems time does move slightly faster than the regular speed of Virtual Villagers (unless it's my imagination).

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#193931 - 05/14/09 11:08 PM Re: Time can go faster! [Re: fluffysue]
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Word of advice: If you're going to "time-travel" only do so if the computer you are playing on is yours and yours alone. Then if you mess up other programs on your computer, only you will be disappointed.

My ex-husband did something similar and turned the clock ahead on a game of his, and basically cheated me out of a free 30-day trial on a program, and turning back the clock didn't give me the free days back, so I bought the program without getting to try it out fully. I was later sorry I'd bought it as it didn't do what I'd been hoping.

(I didn't divorce him because of this, but just a word of caution to those who do change your clock.)

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#193975 - 05/15/09 04:06 AM Re: Time can go faster! [Re: Elysabethe]
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Originally Posted By: Elysabethe

(I didn't divorce him because of this, but just a word of caution to those who do change your clock.)

laugh laugh laugh laugh ... I was wondering about that while I read your post

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#193995 - 05/15/09 08:54 AM This won't harm the pc. [Re: fluffysue]
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You people really take too much stock in changing the time on the pc. Changing the time may affect this game, but will not harm the pc in any way. Most apps are not time dependent and neither is the OS file system. So, if you want to jump ahead, feel free to.


Edited by jbart321 (05/15/09 08:55 AM)

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#194024 - 05/15/09 01:31 PM Re: This won't harm the pc. [Re: jbart321]
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Keep giving out bad advice; there are kids on here who do not have the administrator rights to correct something that stops working; like anti-virus or the internet. Yes the internet, Comcast seems to get very annoyed when I play with the system clock and stops working.

Advice -- listen to the game developers.
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#194028 - 05/15/09 01:59 PM Re: This won't harm the pc. [Re: jbart321]
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Changing the computer clock won't affect the computer itself in any way, as you say. It will affect the game, in unpredictable and usually bad ways. Feel free to mess with the clock, but don't come whining to LDW or the forum if the game is spoilt. If you must, use a computer not connected to the Internet.

Most apps are not time dependent but some of the most important ones are, such as AV software checking for updates. I've also got a relatively simple program installed on my machine that shows TV schedules for the next few days. I don't want to check what's on then find out that it won't be shown in fact until 10 days hence.
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#194030 - 05/15/09 02:09 PM Re: This won't harm the pc. [Re: arnie]
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Strangely, adjusting the clock can also mess up some printer cartridges...it seems odd I know, but it's true.

And having to go get new cartridges just to speed up a game is a pretty expensive move laugh

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#194031 - 05/15/09 02:20 PM Re: This won't harm the pc. [Re: bethlham]
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Beth, that is horribly expensive. I thought it was a coincidence at first with Comcast. Nope, everytime I played with the system clock; I had to shut down computer and reboot. It was a pain in the you know what.
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#194032 - 05/15/09 02:24 PM Re: This won't harm the pc. [Re: bethlham]
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My computer is set to automatically change thr intrnet time once a week.Is that what ya all are talking about?My computer works faster when it changes.I am still computer stupid.

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#194035 - 05/15/09 02:46 PM Re: This won't harm the pc. [Re: jbart321]
bethlham Offline
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Originally Posted By: jbart321
You people really take too much stock in changing the time on the pc. Changing the time may affect this game, but will not harm the pc in any way. Most apps are not time dependent and neither is the OS file system. So, if you want to jump ahead, feel free to.


My understanding is that it may be true that adjusting the PC clock will not damage your OS directly...BUT it will affect many programs that keep your OS running smoothly...in this way adjusting your clock DOES affect your OS indirectly. I was unable to find the thread where LadyCF names several of the particular systems, but please keep this in mind...

The programmers/developers at LDW are HIGHLY knowledged in computer systems, also there are several members who are very impressive in their knowledge of systems...and they are STRONGLY advising that you SHOULD NOT adjust your systems clock for gaming purposes. They give this advise for NO other reason than for the players benefit and they have ALOT of experiance in this area. Their experiance with thousands of players and thousands of programs tells them that this action IS NOT a good idea.

Regular members, like me smile , don't recommend it for the "cheat" aspect. We like to help one another progress in the games and if it is found that adjusting the clock is the cause of a players problem, it IS NOT supported by anyone. So, if a problem does arise, frequently there is no help to be given.

It's true that even if you mess up your OS the end of the world will not come...but, it is an EXTREMELY expensive and inconvenient result that could easily be avoided by just playing the game as it was designed to be played. Kindof like bungy-jumping...a thousand times may be just fine, but the one time there is a problem with the equiptment you can find yourself in a huge mess.

Adjusting the clock is just not worth the possible consequences.

So, your right, players are free to make the choice to adjust the clock...they are also free to pick up a hammer and smash their PC to pieces...but DO NOT expect to find help or sympathy with problems or game advancement arising from this choice.

As an end point, you really should take care in the advise you give players...some players are very young and/or very unexperianced in computer systems and are unable to resolve problems with AV and other software and are not financially capable of replacing any damaged programs. Please just keep that in mind, especially when you are condradicting the repeated advise of very experianced gamers.

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#194046 - 05/15/09 04:39 PM Re: This won't harm the pc. [Re: bethlham]
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I (still) play Catz5, and I change my clock all the time to speed up pregnancies. smile

It's all based on your system. If you don't know what's going on with your system or what you could mess up, you probably shouldn't do it. If you don't care, then what the hey, go ahead!

In my case I know what I'm doing and time travel doesn't hurt me or my PC at all. But I think if you don't have the confidence or knowledge to fix anything that may possibly happen... don't do it, or have your tech guy on the phone waiting.

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#194070 - 05/15/09 06:09 PM Re: This won't harm the pc. [Re: jbart321]
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Originally Posted By: jbart321
You people really take too much stock in changing the time on the pc. Changing the time may affect this game, but will not harm the pc in any way. Most apps are not time dependent and neither is the OS file system. So, if you want to jump ahead, feel free to.


Obviously you use your computer as a toy and not a tool. That's fine. I use mine as a tool. Some major (and common) app types that are affected adversely by time-travel are calendaring and personal information management utilities. Many, many adults use these tools in their daily lives. Changing the time on my computer would make me miss meetings, appointments and deadlines. I depend on my calendar and project management timelines being right in order to get through my work week sanely. Games like VF are just a fun diversion when I take a break.

My original point was that if you are not the sole user of your computer then you should leave well enough alone, unless you're sure that the other users will be OK with you changing things that may affect their experience. If your computer is merely a platform for games (just a toy) then it's less likely to cause problems, but I wouldn't make any assumptions along those lines. If someone in my household messed with my computer's time in order to play a *game* due to a lack of patience and self-control, I would be (rightfully) livid.

All I'm saying: exercise common sense, good judgment and courtesy to others.

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#194075 - 05/15/09 06:40 PM Re: This won't harm the pc. [Re: Elysabethe]
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All of my siblings and I time-travel, and I'll admit that sometimes the store won't restock for a while, but we can deal with that. We don't own any programs on the computer that would get messed up, so we do it guilt-free (lol)
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#194088 - 05/15/09 07:04 PM Re: This won't harm the pc. [Re: Elf-girl]
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Its is fine if you want to time-travel. To make a blanket statement that its okay is absolutely wrong to do and mis-guided. There are many reasons why one shouldn't and the most important is if there are others who use the same computer.

There are programs on my computer like calendars that are affected when someone plays with the system clock.

I'll say this, if my kids (who use my computer) moved my system clock; I would be quite angry. So angry that they would be banned from the computer.
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#194140 - 05/15/09 10:23 PM Re: This won't harm the pc. [Re: QuickStorm]
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I have question to time-travellers (or those who advise to travel at will)...what do your parents or the person who provided the computer, the game being played, the computers upkeep and repairs think of time-travelling? laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

That's really a rhetorical question laugh

The point I would like to add is whether T-T is harmful or not is really just a matter of debate, obviously laugh , what is not under debate is that it is an activity that is not supported in these forums. So to continue to discuss what has been clearly said is not "approved" is just inviting negative feelings. It's like a manners-thing laugh

Okay, I'm done laugh


Edited by bethlham (05/15/09 10:31 PM)
Edit Reason: Had another thought

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#194144 - 05/15/09 10:33 PM Re: This won't harm the pc. [Re: bethlham]
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Registered: 05/14/09
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Loc: RI, USA
Personally I see nothing wrong with time travelling, but to each his own of course. I've never had a problem with it in-game nor has it caused my laptop or other programs any harm. And I do use my laptop for work- I just make sure I time travel "sensibly".

That means only changing the time a little bit at once, then pause the game, set the clock back to where it belongs, and do it again. That way the clock never gets much past where it ought to be. I haven't had any problems with the in-game store doing it this way, either.

If people are changing their clock a great deal- many hours at once, or letting extra days accumulate and stuff like that- then yeah I can see where that may be a bad idea if one has things scheduled. I really don't think it could break a computer though or cause it to need any sort of special maintenance!

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#194154 - 05/16/09 12:17 AM Re: This won't harm the pc. [Re: PinkLemonade]
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I never use time travel in Virtual Families, as I don't want to age my little peeps any faster than necessary. The money will come quick enough without resorting to doing it.

However I do have to admit I used time travel in the villager games, as the building projects can be quite mundane, and it takes forever otherwise to get enough tech points to advance. Though I did it as TyphoidMary suggested...only a little at a time...never more than half hour or so. Then you can pause your game and reset the clock without it affecting appointments and such.

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#194159 - 05/16/09 12:57 AM Re: This won't harm the pc. [Re: Lewanda]
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i have never done that. i mean, yes the research and stuff takes forever but in the end, i feel like i accomplished something! silly i know, but its how i feel! i read a warning about it, then i was GLAD i had never done it! if i dont feel like just sitting there watching them, i do what im doing right now. i have VV3 running and im waiting to build up some tech points, so i have it in windowed mode, and as u can see im also doing other stuff, mainly looking at the forums lol
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