I don't mind them out the door and mom being done with her childbearing time. I find once they've moved out you save more (not so many groceries? hehe) plus both parents have uninterrupted time to work on their careers. I've had a few of my fathers master a job but none of the women so far. I have one mom who is always doing nothing (grrr) so she's had 6 kids. It seems to be all she's willing to do. Now she's had 6, so it's back to work when she puts this one down!