I was at bigfishgames and found the game My Tribe.
Its real-time, about a island and even have potions. Even ranks such as Trainne scientest, and many same puzzles, techknoldgey!
(My keyboard is strange, sorry for many typos.

Lailai, there was already a topic about My Tribe, where we discussed how the game is obviously a copy off Virtual Villagers. I won't go into any more detail about the discussion. Here is the link for the forum -

http://www.ldwforums.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/178615/1

P.S. Arthur already locked that thread because the discussion was getting a little intense.

Dont bother to play my tribe.It stinks.

Yes. It's a cheap rip-off of VV.

If you want to protest and denounce these acts, please look at this thread: a peaceful protest

I got an email from Reflixive addvertising a new game called My Tribe, is that the one every one is talking about?

Yes, it is!

I downloaded the free trial and it is very much like Virtual Villagers. VVs is much better, better graphics, music, just about everything. The only thing I liked from My Tribe is that you don't have to wait four hours for the baby to start running around and kids swim. This new game doesn't come close to the quality of the Virtual Villagers games.

There are other locked forums on the merits of both. I think people need to make up their minds about the game whether its game play, graphics, loyalty to LDW.

I have the game like others on this forum and all was going well until the whole thing crashed and deleted the whole tribe after finally getting somewhere. Many people have also accidentally deleted tribes because it is not as user friendly (personal opinion). So compared to the overall LDW quality and debugging etc, I know what gets my vote!

I think a protest thread is going a bit far though.

If you want people to try VV you need to be willing to give my tibe a shot.

eep!
I hope you're not suggesting buying the game in order to convince MT players to check out VV??

If that's not what you meant, then what did you mean?

What I believe Lovelychunks is suggesting you do is to download the free trial so you can give valid comparisons of the two games so that if anyone asks what My Tribe took from VV, you can easily point them out from first-hand experience and not just from other people's explanations or reviews.

People are more likely to listen to what you say if you try that game and tell them that VV is better (with specific examples, i.e. user-friendliness, graphics, etc.) than if you don't try the game and go by what other people say (some of which may be misleading or incorrect).

Chunks, if I misinterpreted what you said, sorry!

its no where even comes close to vv games,but its something to do until vv4 comes out.

I, for one, am thinking on sueing whoever is selling a.k.a. supporting " My Tribe." Unfortunately, I'm only ten, but I'll see to it that my mum & dad hear about this outrageous scandal!

lol, i have to say you take it a little to seriously. Anyone can make anything they want. They don't use the same graphics or any copyrighted material, then they can make it. Its the same idea as movies coming out to rent that are very similar to ones coming out in theaters by almost the same name just a word or a couple letter off from the original title. Its a money making scheme to try and earn revenue from somebody else's obviously better work. It will always happen. The best thing you can do, to protest, is to not talk about it, not buy it, and leave it on the wayside where it belongs. The more you talk about it and bring it up, the more people will go "oh what is that" and go get it

My 2 cents.

I checked shockwave,they have new games every tues.One of the new games is My Tribe.If you are a member like me,you can play games free as long as you like.I will keep a eye on the reviews,and i can tell everybody what i think of the game.It will be interesting to see what the members think.Shockwave has all of the VV games.Most of the members like VVs.

I think that, considering that we ourselves are not LDW, and the fact that there are teeny tiny differences in My Tribe which would make it hard to sue, I think that what we are doing, by not just saying 'No' to buying it, but letting people know that it is clearly a rip off of VV, means that word will go around, and not only consumers, but reviewers as well, will take a second thought before buying My Tribe, and giving it a thumbs up for origionality.

I am the only meember of shockwave that gave My Tribe thumbs down.Everbody else is giving thumbs up.Most of them say they like it better than VVs.does anybody have any ideas about what to tell them?shockwave wont let members give out websites.I have tried many times to tell them to go to lastdayofwork.com,or virtualvillagers.com,but shockwave blocks it.They wont let me say anything to nasty either.

Maybe tell them about all the similarities to the VV series.

Okay, we've tried to show the MT forumers the major similarities between VV and MT, but they are saying there is no problem with it being similar. It's like making an enjoyable song, and someone "remixing" it with out the musician's permission. Eventually, people end up looking at the new remixed version. I don't think we can really change the minds of other forumers on the Grubby Games forum, they prefer the new remixed version instead of the old.

Everybody on shockwave likes MT.There is no changing thier minds.I even downloaded it and played for a while,i dont understand why people like it.There are so many buildings and trees.I dont care for it,myself.It is just so boring.

Everyone went about it wrong if you wanted people to come here, or try virtual villagers. If you randomly go on and talk about how awful it is that they copied VV and that mytribe makers should be ashamed . People aren't going to automaticly stop playing my tribe and change their opinion they are just going to think you are RUDE. Also if they never heard anything about Ldw the first encounter left them with bad taste in their mouth. Maybe a better apparoach is " Hey if you like My Tribe you probably will like Virtual Villagers why not give it a try? They have a lot a like we also have a great forum for help if you need it. NOt to mention the creators are working on a great new game!" if you say something like that they may get curious and try. If you go off about a game that they apparently like they'll just think about your rudeness not the fact that they may like the other game.

They have all played Virtual Villagers because shockwave has them.I found out about LDW from members at shockwave.I became a member of shockwave in 2002.When VV1 came out some members became upset because there was so many of the same questions about the game they said just go to LWD website and all your answers are there.Shockwave blanks out other websites.They didnt blank out one of them,so thats how i found out about LWD.I tell them all the time to go to LWD or VV website.Most of the members love VV1,VV2,VV3.Now most of them are saying they like My Tribe more.

It's of no use to go to the GG forum and trying to convince them. Besides, some of the people we were conversing with turned out to be our own forumers, some with different screen-names!

Anyway, perhaps this thread would be a good place to discuss the details of what is similar in the game and what isn't. Besides, it will also give outsiders who are reading this thread, a better idea of what we are discussing.

I think the whole VV thing has died down at the grubby games forums now, as we got the message through to them that while it it a good game, it is definitely based on VV. That's all I wanted to do. I think some people are going a bit far by telling people they should not play the game, I think that VV fans should just tell people the obvious differences, get people to try both games to see for themselves, so even if people choose My Tribe over VV, they will still realise that it is based almost entirely on VV.

For confuzzled people, see this (locked) post by Arthur explaining the similarities http://www.ldwforums.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/178615/1

I have been playing MT today.It seems they used parts of VV andEFP and some of thier own ideas and made a game.I guess parts of it are cute.There are so many buildings and trees it is hard to find a place to put the last 2 buildings ,unless you demolish some of the other ones.I found the walkthrough so i know how it ends.I dont think they will be able to make another game because of the ending.VV is like Dinner Dash they can make games forever if they want to.Dinner Dash has alot of games,and i love them all.I hope VV makes a lot more games too.Im waiting for VV4,Aveyond3.and Westward3 To be finished.I guess i can playMT and see if it grows on me.I still have my VVI and VV3 villagers to check on every day.

I'm pretty sure VV will be going on for quite some time!!! If not (as many people believe there will be four VV games discovering the north, south, east and west of Isola), I'm sure LDW will continue making new, awesome games that we will love!!!

Because Virtual Villagers was a new game that no-one had ever thought of before, it has become incredibly popular, and one of the many reasons why all us VV fans love it so much is because it is new and original. I was getting sick of games that were all so similar to each other, and VV really stood out to me. With that kind of success, it is bound to be copied, as we have seen in EFP, and even more in MT. My personal opinion, and I could be wrong, is that MT was just a cheap cash in on VV, and that the makers of MT couldn't be bothered making an original game. VV will remain on top though, as it was and still is the original (and the awesomest) Island sim game (I think is is anyway ).

So, I say we just let MT go. I'll admit and I'm sorry that I played a big part in the whole argument-debate, but I really did feel let down by Grubby Games. Many others have asked for peace before me, and I am willing to call peace as well. It's a game that does not deserve four threads on this forum, so I say we just forget about it, and the rest of the world will as well, and VV will still be pure awesomeness!

emri, you have to cut down the trees to make room for buildings.

I played the trial hour of this game from BFG and it was reasonably enjoyable, so I bought it - $6.99 with game club. While there are SOME similarities to VV (you have a tribe of people and you have to look after them - and SOME of the stuff they do is similar), there are also just as many differences.

I actually find it reminds me more of Escape from Paradise than VV - and I found that game incredibly boring! My Tribe is better. Better than VV? Worse than VV? Not necessarily either. It's DIFFERENT to VV.

I like that you're not stuck on the one island - you can build a ship and go to others. I like that you can cut down trees and harvest rocks and then replace them, and build as many houses as you like wherever you like. I LOVE that mothers don't nurse their babies for two years (be honest - how many people have asked that of LDW and it's been passed over?) As a tradeoff, they have to wait 2 years to have their next baby, but at least they're doing something in those 2 years.

This is a forum that's loyal to LDW. So of course most people here will say they prefer VV. And that's ok. What's NOT ok is to tell other people not to play this game. Let people decide for themselves, and don't make them ashamed to admit they play it or even that they like it.

I hate dealing with companies that try and draw people in by rubbishing their competitors. If I were a My Tribe fan and wanted to check out VV because someone said I'd like it, and I came here, what I'm seeing in these discussions would not make me want to come back. LDW would have just lost a new customer.

I won't go so far as to say I'm enjoying the game - it's a distraction, and not much more. Something to do when I have a spare 10 minutes. I got it for $7.00 so it's been money well spent for me. But above all, it's not going to stop me buying LDW's NEW game for the FULL price when it comes out, or VV4 when that's available either.

There's room in this world for everyone

Hey, I think that was my idea! I'm teasing, of course...



I can't get into similarities or differences because I haven't played My Tribe beyond part of the demo...but one thing you mentioned stuck out to me.

When you mentioned that MT was 'a distraction'... it made me think about VV and that its' developers were trying to create 'a beautiful' game. I think that is one of the many things I like about VV...it's just pleasant to look at for me (I really like the reef in VV3 and now that I can do mods of the hairstyles - sweeet!). That makes it a nice distraction from the everyday.

I know, this post is a bit 'random' but I just wanted to mention that I think VV has done a great job in creating an entertaining game on many different levels, like esthetics. It's a difference from other games, not just MT, that some may not appreciate but I do.

Just thought I'd throw that out there ...now back to the topic and MT...

I have bee playing MT for a while and it could never be as great as VV.There are 5 islands and when you finish one island you build a ship and go to the next island.I like VV because they do one island at a time that is why they can make more than one game,thats what i think,i may be wrong.EFP did the same thing.all the islands at the same time.All i know is i can hardly wait for VV4,and LDWs other new game.I am sure i will love them both.I am already bored with MT.

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I agree

I downloaded My Tribe. I kinda liked it. It asks you if you want people to have babies. Some people have been asking for that in VV4.

I finishe My Tribe and the game is it was okay.There were a few things i was going to say,but that would be telling people how to play.People that are playing might want to find out for themselves.I will say ther are two things you should have alot of when you go from island to island.It will give you 100food,100wood,100rock.When they get gray hair there is a potion that will make them younger.They will live for a long time if you use the potion every time they get gray hair.If you like games that have alot of trees and huts,and a few buildings,and is really crowded,the game is for you.It is not for me,I love VV.I can hardly wait for VV4.

By the way, "escape from paradise is really a boring game in my opinion, I can't play it as long as i play VV (I play it every day, when my grandson sleeps)
I'm a game addict, so I have, believe it or not almost 500 original game cd, some of them I don't even play anymore.
So, don't worry about other virtual games, quality is something that calls your attention at the first time!
I only miss some animal on VV series, I do a lot, that's why I bought the three of them, trying to find some animals on it.If anyone can help me to this, know about virtual animals game to play, please tell me.Thanks in advance, rebakan

I can now say that I've tried My Tribe. I've tried to keep an open mind, and I have to say that I like both My Tribe and Virtual Villagers. Maybe not equally or for the same reasons, but they're both good games.

So I found myself a long demo (lasting for almost two weeks rather than an hour), and I played the game until my demo was up.

In my open and honest opinion, it was not all that entertaining. Yes, I might seem to be a little extra critical, but it is more because I am a demo player, than anything else. That means that a game needs to catch my attention in 15 minutes or LESS in order for me to continue playing. Regardless of this, because I wanted to give an opinion of the whole game, I played longer (much longer than I would have).

My Tribe was like a scaled down version of Virtual Villagers but seriously lacked VV's pizazz. Its simplicity felt like a game that I would give a young child to play. It required very little thinking on my part in order to maintain the island, the tribe, and to solve the mysteries.

The game lacked the intensity that time management activities would have provided. There wasn't any pressure to get anything done. They were easily fed and sheltered, and the clues to the mysteries were practically given to you. Everything was as simple as picking up the Stardust and Moondust off the ground. If you had them and used them, your people had to do very little work if any at all. Without the dusts I had to set my people on tasks. Granted, as soon as I set a tribe-member on a certain skill they would do it. However, if they were set to multiple tasks, they would either work for nearly 3 full seconds on a task and then rotate (and yes, I counted it with a timer), or just ignore one of the tasks I set for them. If I wasn't paying attention to how many tasks I set for each member, or just who was doing what, I could easily have twenty or more tribes-people wandering about the island, doing very little.

I could leave the game on for days and not touch it (did that one too) and there wasn't much chance of anything bad happening. Don't get me wrong, once when I did that, my fishers and farmers decided not to fish or farm because they were also checked off to do other work. Because of it, I found that one of my tribe-members had just died of starvation before I reopened the game.

The repetitiveness of the game was almost unbearable. The thought message at the top of the screen was often in my way and had nothing to do with how the game was going to play out, with the exception of when they were tired. I got wary of searching out crates and barrels (the only source of events in the game), and fishing newborn babies out of the ocean.

After playing this game, I am now on the side of letting the moms nurse for 2 years or whatever LDW sets it to next. I hated seeing newborn babies roaming around without care, especially swimming in the ocean unsupervised, and they weren't even useful in the game. Not to mention, once a mother had a child, you had to somehow know who she was for the game's next two years if you wanted her to have more kids. It was frustrating to try dropping men and women together only to discover that 'she's not ready yet'.

I can go into more detail if someone wants me to, but I've already written more than I intended to in this first post.

Tried it hated it simple as that.

Really it`s insanely repetitive and it just rips off anything about it that`s intresting from VV.

I've been looking over the posts here at LDW, and have noticed all the disagreements between many of us over the My Tribe game.

I would like to extend a heartfelt apology to anyone who became offended by our protest on this forum. It was meant to be a peaceful means of getting the attention of game-sellers and game developers, and spreading the word, while allowing us as mere players to tell our view, hopefully, without coming across as hateful or offensive.

I suggest that we take the time now to put all our disagreements aside and openly talk about what we like and don't like about both VV and MT. I think this will be a great learning experience for all of us.

Everyone's thoughts are welcome, and I encourage (as I have done so in the past) the discussion of My Tribe right here in this thread. After all Arthur did say that we could discuss it, and other games as well.

If you liked it, please feel free to speak up and tell the rest of us what you liked about it, feel free to point out the differences between MT and VV, and so on!
I only ask that you would please grant a little room to those of us who didn't like it, whether on principle or mere gaming likes. And those who are protesting should also give the same room for thought, considerately in return.

I hope that sounds good to everyone, and I look forward to a great discussion.

HP, as typical, I agree with you sentiments. You make a very kind effort toward reasonable discourse.

I still haven't played MT enough to make many comparisons...I've only played the demo

I did see some obvious similarities in...how do I explain...the preference bars, intro and whatnot, and some dissimilarities...graphics and "enhancements" such as ability to select multiple tasks, birthing and such. VV is an "open-ended" game and MT, from what I've read is a game with a definitive ending. Personally, I've become accustomed to open-endings though admittedly...it confused me at first

But the likes and dislikes I mostly wanted to share are these...

I really like several Grubby gamers. Though the meeting was less than ideal for some, the folks at Grubby can be very nice...and generous! I have won two free games from the forum...well, they're just giveaways...it doesn't take much to win and have received what little help I've needed easily. They seem to have a genuine interest in moving past any upset and are very willing to make new friends I like that. And the developer has been responsive in queries both PM and posting.

My dislike is as it has been...the battle between gamers. And this is pure speculation but...I think the idea to implement VV ideas into MT was really an attempt to expand on what the developer saw as a good idea. I realize many feel the similarities were "too close for comfort" and while I'm willing to let those more qualified than me hash that out, I haven't gotten the impression that this was a malicious attempt to deprive LDW. I'm sure the responces Grubby received has caused at least some opportunity to ponder those choices themselves.

I, too, look forward to discussion...just out of my own curiousity...about similarities, dissimilarities, likes and dislikes...MT is still a bit of a mystery to me. (I could've picked it as a free game but felt awkward considering the circumstance so I picked Prof Fizzwizzle which has nothing to do with islands and seems a neat kid-friendly strategy game.)

But I wanted to ask if you mind if I share your heartfelt words with others to encourage discussion and healing?

So is it safe for me to come out from behind this rock now Beth?

I did see some small differences, but I found it way too similar to really enjoy it without feeling like I was betraying LDW.

*gasps with delighted surprise*

Oh my goodness! AJ!!!

*brings AJ gently out from behind the rock he has been hiding behind*

Yes, as promised, I will stand beside you and introduce you to my friends

To my LDW friends, I want to say that our new member is a long-time gamer of Grubby games.

Several of you may recognize him as a moderator from the Grubby forums. He is a wonderful person making a huge...and quite brave...attempt to make friends and accept our offer to move past upset over MT.

I will leave further details for him to post in the introduction thread but I must say how delighted I am that he has made this effort to visit us and I hope my friends here will recognize and accept his gesture graciously.

I am very proud of you AJ! And I am very proud of LDW for making him feel safe enough to join us!

*watches to see if everyone can play nice*

Hello aaaaajon !

*gulps*

Erm.....thanks Beth....these guys aint gonna be mean to me are they?

Thank you for the welcome guys. I wasn't expecting this:



I believe you were one of the two people I had a little "disagreement" with over on the Grubby forums halidog.
I guess we both just got a little too passionate about our favourite games developers didn't we?
Sorry for my rudeness.......let's start again shall we?
*offers hand*

It's getting late here in the UK, and I have to fix dinner. But I will do as Beth(what a girl!)suggested, and post an introducton. But tomorrow, when I have had time to think of some nice things to say about myself

Goodnight!

I agree. I got a little (waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too) steamed at My Tribe, and had to vent a bit. I'm approachable now .
*shakes hand*

There is another one called Totem Tribe.Give it a try,it is nothing like VV.

I tried it, and liked it. It is way unlike VV.

No, I don't believe so...an offer of welcome has been extended and I'm sure that will be honored

As I have mentioned at Grubby, the members here are wonderful...you will see. You should see a few familiar faces...er...screennames...in time.

I have sent you a PM...you should see a flashing red and white envelope next to 'My Stuff' above. Just click it.

I was wondering about Totem Tribe...you liked it? I need to pick a new game and can't decide on one.

I'd recommend it.

Welcome aaaaajon!!
Of course my welcome includes you too! I too offer my apologies to you for any grievances between us. *and offers to shake hands as a sign of peace as well*

I hope that you will join in on our little discussion here, whether it be MT, VV, or any other real-time village/tribe/island... game.

Welcome to the forums aaaaajon! I'll be nice to you I promise!

Thank you HP!
*shakes hands*
I'm sorry too.


Thanks to you too williamani....I'll be nice to YOU as well!

Hi! I remember seeing you on the Grubby Games forum.

And for the record I own and play MT. I love both VV and MT.

Since there seems to be a discussion of a game that is a rip-off of a LDW game, there's another one I saw over on Big Fish Games under their time management category called FishCo that looks, from the screen shots and the description, to be a rip off of Fish Tycoon. You have to breed fish, buy magic plants, etc. I'm just judging based on the description and screen shots, mind you. I don't know for sure and wondered if anyone played it.

It's not a rip off. It's totally different. When you breed it's only pure breed. Exp: Gourmia + Gourmia = Gourmia, Fantail + fantail = fantail, that's the only the only breeding there is. The plants are not magic. The help increase the fishes value for that level. Also it is not real time, it's based on levels, and you have to get the goals done in a certain about or time. You have to change the water, cure sickness, feed them buy if you don't have the breeding tank for that level. I myself thought the game was boring. It's a good idea but could be improved.

welcome aaaaajon

i played my tribe its horibal i like vv better another good tribe game thats NOT real time is escape from paridise it got games and all u should try it its like westward and vv mixed

I actually own My Tribe, I like it but VV is better by far. I just needed a game to play while waiting for the new VV game to come out, so dont consider me a trader, lol!

im sorry! i also own MT but i havent played it since the beginning of April. call me crazy, but i felt i better "cleanse" my computer b4 VF came out. MT is very similar to VV. i like the fact of the babies being born immediately, but thats just me. im so sorry LDW for even buying it, but i did. *waiting to get yelled at* i deserve it tho!

Don't take it hard. I have to admit that I tried it before I knew how related to VV it was.

Please, don't be sorry to do what you want with your money, your computer and your time!! (Even if I think that it's a wastage )

*slightly raises Hand* I too own MT, The ONLY thing i like about it is that the mothers can work right after they have a baby, As stated before VV (all of the VV's) Are way WAY better...

I will admit i played My Tribe until i got my last trophey.If i remember right one of them had to live to be 969 yrs old .I didnt buy the game.I am a member of Shockwave,so i played it free,as long as i wanted to.After i got the trophey.i deleted it.

thats right Vanna! thats the only good thing about it! VV is SOOOOO much better!

Sorry........... I like and own My Tribe and run it along with my VV games..So many peeps to look after.