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#167308 - 08/09/08 09:28 AM
Do you really think they beat VV?
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Registered: 12/28/07
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I have seen on lots of game websites, the description of Escape from Paradise often mentions VV. They say that Escape From Paradise has beat Virtual Villagers, and that it is easier to play, faster and better, like at this link. I love Virtual Villagers 1, 2 and 3 and think that Escape from Paradise is too arcadish for me, but do you think it's too arcade like for other people. Has Escape from paradise overtaken VV, or are we still on top? I hate to see that people are putting VV down, but then again they are just descriptions, trying to get people to buy the game. What do you think? 
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#167310 - 08/09/08 09:44 AM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: Becca123]
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Consigliere
Registered: 07/17/08
Posts: 386
Loc: I am now here.
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but, VV! they think it beat it, but it is not! there is still hope; People would not like to escape from paradise. the fun of that game is nothing but beating, and VV is beating and has more fun. VV3! VV3! VV3! VV3! VV2! VV2! VV2! VV2! VV! VV! VV! VV! give a ode to VV!
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#167311 - 08/09/08 09:49 AM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: williamani]
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Fan Fiction Enthusiast
Registered: 02/24/07
Posts: 992
Loc: Pennsylvania
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I have played EFP (escape from paradise) there is no comparison, VV games are much more sophisticated and well made that I deleted the EFP from my puter for being over rated junk. I love arcade games, but not in that sort of format.
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#167312 - 08/09/08 10:29 AM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: kittenangel2001]
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Trainee
Registered: 06/06/08
Posts: 28
Loc: Selangor , Malaysia
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i've play it too , but VV more better. I love arcade game , VV more easy and I love VV! and the other LDW gsme!!
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#167318 - 08/09/08 02:10 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: Prissy Poodle]
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Senior Uber-Member
Registered: 12/27/05
Posts: 1762
Loc: Barbados
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I played EPP once, many months ago. Nothing there to make me want to play it again. Lacks the character of VV
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#167321 - 08/09/08 03:28 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: bajantara]
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Expert
Registered: 05/10/08
Posts: 133
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I love vv and own them all i don't currently own Escape from paradise but i have played it i think vv has alonger playing time but i do like escape from paradise alot i don't think they can compare because they are totally diffrent in my view.
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#167322 - 08/09/08 03:43 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: bajantara]
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Master Poet
Registered: 12/16/07
Posts: 1200
Loc: The Beautiful Ozarks
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I read the reviews of EFP, but nothing in them convinced me to spend all night downloading it. I will say that Prissy Poodle is partially right. Nothing in the description from the developers or the promoters says one game is better than the other. They pretty much all point to a similarity, I suppose thinking that if you like one you'll like the other. This is true to a large degree.
I say partially right, because the reviews by players does tend to claim it is better than VV. Most of these claims are based on the fact that game play in EFP is fast, whereas in VV it is real time play. I've also seen some VV reviews that claim it's better than EFP because it is more challenging, and, because you interact more with the villagers.
To me, this is kind of like trying to compare Apples and Oranges. Yes, both are a fruit; come from a tree; are sweet and most people who like one will like the other. Oranges make a great treat; a great juice; a great preserve and a great glaze or icing. But let's face it. When was the last time you ate a piece of orange pie; orange cake; used an orange in stuffing; used orange juice as the base to sweeten other juices; made a vinegar out of an orange, etc etc etc.
The apple is vastly more versatile, and, in the long run is much more enjoyable. In my opinion, VV is an apple compared to EFP with it's brief, yet enjoyable, burst of flavor.
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#167323 - 08/09/08 04:00 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: Rockmower]
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Registered: 06/28/07
Posts: 452
Loc: Ldw Forums
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#167324 - 08/09/08 04:11 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: Prissy Poodle]
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Graphics Wizard
Registered: 02/26/07
Posts: 847
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...They're two completely different games... I would have to agree, although my first thought was they made a knock-off of VV. The premise seems to be the same but they operate differently. I have EFP and I have all 3 VV's. The VV games are realtime. Things get accomplished when you are not there running your tribe unlike with EFP. EFP is more like a sim game in the respect you can tell a person where to go and what to do. With VV, you can suggest to the villagers what to do but they have their own mind and will get sidetracked with laundry or bathing. VV has kids. They are an integral part of the game as well. The one thing I do think EFP has over VV are the side games. There are times I will just open EFP to play a game of marbles or higher/lower. These types of side games make EFP less boring. Say you have some people completing a bridge or everyone is fishing, that get boring. So you go hangout in one of the games. Do a little "Diner Dash" game for awhile. The overall game appeal for me is not that great. I can guarantee I have played any one of the VV games 100's of times more than EFP. I have only played EFP twice all the way through since I got it. That does not include playing the side games as mentioned. VV is more charming and is more realistic. It's method of solving the game is more challenging and takes more brain work and planning. Food runs out. Trees go bare. People are born and people die. They get old. They get sick and need to be healed. They need to be taught a skill. They just don't come in ready to do any chore you set before them. They have likes and dislikes that truly affect their performance on the island. Island events happen. Some are good and prosperous while some are not so beneficial. As much as I enjoy EFP's side games, given the choice between EFP or any single VV game, I would choose VV over EFP any day of the week.
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#167334 - 08/09/08 07:11 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: Gamemastr1]
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Consigliere
Registered: 07/17/08
Posts: 386
Loc: I am now here.
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...They're two completely different games... I would have to agree, although my first thought was they made a knock-off of VV. The premise seems to be the same but they operate differently. I have EFP and I have all 3 VV's. The VV games are realtime. Things get accomplished when you are not there running your tribe unlike with EFP. EFP is more like a sim game in the respect you can tell a person where to go and what to do. With VV, you can suggest to the villagers what to do but they have their own mind and will get sidetracked with laundry or bathing. VV has kids. They are an integral part of the game as well. The one thing I do think EFP has over VV are the side games. There are times I will just open EFP to play a game of marbles or higher/lower. These types of side games make EFP less boring. Say you have some people completing a bridge or everyone is fishing, that get boring. So you go hangout in one of the games. Do a little "Diner Dash" game for awhile. The overall game appeal for me is not that great. I can guarantee I have played any one of the VV games 100's of times more than EFP. I have only played EFP twice all the way through since I got it. That does not include playing the side games as mentioned. VV is more charming and is more realistic. It's method of solving the game is more challenging and takes more brain work and planning. Food runs out. Trees go bare. People are born and people die. They get old. They get sick and need to be healed. They need to be taught a skill. They just don't come in ready to do any chore you set before them. They have likes and dislikes that truly affect their performance on the island. Island events happen. Some are good and prosperous while some are not so beneficial. As much as I enjoy EFP's side games, given the choice between EFP or any single VV game, I would choose VV over EFP any day of the week. i actually agree wholeheartedly, i'd play a little "Diner Dash: Flo On The Go"and i like it! i think it is better than EFP, since this is also arcade, but you do not take care of the customers. Seth, was so bad thatr he had the power to make his sister Isis make anything good. she taked care of oll the other gods, which we do of all our villagers. see how Isis will defeat her brother Seth by playing "Luxor 3" or "The Ancient Quest Of Squarrah". another two completely different games.
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#167759 - 08/13/08 01:20 AM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: Lailai]
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Fan Fiction Enthusiast
Registered: 11/11/07
Posts: 941
Loc: Florida
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I have played Escape From Paradise. But seriously better than VV? I think NOT! Even if you can make your main character it's not that good! I played the trial then i wanted to buy.. until i bought VV3.. I loved Vv3 more than anything and i'd never trade it for ANYTHING! ( expect maybe VV4!  )
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#168291 - 08/16/08 09:46 AM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: Crazy VV3 Fan]
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Consigliere
Registered: 07/17/08
Posts: 386
Loc: I am now here.
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I have played Escape From Paradise. But seriously better than VV? I think NOT! Even if you can make your main character it's not that good! I played the trial then i wanted to buy.. until i bought VV3.. I loved Vv3 more than anything and i'd never trade it for ANYTHING! ( expect maybe VV4! ) How's this? I (obviously) enjoy the VV games over EFP. But wait! Does EFP have an EFP 2 or 3? Nope. VV does. i agree wholeheartedly!
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#168319 - 08/16/08 04:39 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: williamani]
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Legend
Registered: 09/23/06
Posts: 1256
Loc: America's Birthplace
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I played EFP when it first came out and found that it was simply a form of flattery for LDW. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
I think the game is okay, kinda like a modern day VV.
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#168321 - 08/16/08 05:11 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: Lailai]
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Adviser
Registered: 08/11/08
Posts: 67
Loc: werever theres oreos :)
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i have never even heard of that game untill today. vv is the best and nobody can beat it!!
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#168325 - 08/16/08 06:47 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: SodaVillage]
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Master
Registered: 03/16/08
Posts: 444
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Escape is fun but once at the end the game is over. If you want to do it again go ahead. But with VV the game goes on after all the puzzles are beat. Escape is fun but they made one and are most likey going to leave it at one. VV has 3 and we all hope for more.
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#168745 - 08/19/08 09:09 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: Lurkily]
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Adviser
Registered: 07/03/07
Posts: 65
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I personally think that the VV games are about the journey, not the destination; a view that I also hold of life. But obviously others disagree, and would probably more appreciate a concrete ending. I agree. I too enjoy the journey more than I would a payoff. I play numerous other games for pay-off satisfaction, but when a game gives you the chance to call most of the shots, enjoy the journey to it's fullest. We all know, life just doesn't work that way, and VV is a fantastic escape when you are tired of escaping into the boob-tube...lol. I actually haven't played VV1 and VV2 much since completing everything because it felt like it was over. VV3 is so versatile, that I may be playing it for quite some time. However, VV3 has given me more insight as to what I may still be able to do with the other 2 so I may go back and play them again.
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#172271 - 09/20/08 06:53 AM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: leowomn]
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Consigliere
Registered: 08/09/08
Posts: 253
Loc: Australia (via TARDIS)
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VV wins hands down!!! I'd be here till christmas if I listed all the reasons why, so I'll give you my favourite. On vv games you get a PROPER trial of the game. Theres no silly 60 min limit, but most of the features are locked. This provides players to get to know the game properly without feeling pressured to spend $60. VV rox 4eva 
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#172291 - 09/20/08 12:43 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: CaszaGirl16138]
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Unicorn
Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 17517
Loc: Colorado
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That's only on the Mac version, and only when you download the Mac demo directly from LDW. The Windows version always has a 60-minute trial.
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#174372 - 10/11/08 03:43 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: colourmehappy]
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Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 1718
Loc: One of the thirteen colonies
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#174373 - 10/11/08 03:55 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: halidog]
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Consigliere
Registered: 07/17/08
Posts: 386
Loc: I am now here.
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I'll say.... Thumbs away! (for EFP)
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#178733 - 11/29/08 09:36 AM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: Becca123]
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Master
Registered: 06/22/08
Posts: 574
Loc: Marion, Ohio
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I own efp and VV 1 2 and 3. personally, i love vv better, but efp is ok. its kinda, a little fun. but vv is definitely the most fun!!!
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#178737 - 11/29/08 01:16 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: esther1981]
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Senior Uber-Member
Registered: 12/27/05
Posts: 1762
Loc: Barbados
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I see there's now another rip-off out called "My Tribe".. havent played it, but jeez, just the initial screen shots don't seem to suggest they came up with too much of their own... builders, scientists, potions - jeez!!! I almost thought Arthur had done a variant of VV on the sly... lol
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#178741 - 11/29/08 01:40 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: bajantara]
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Fan Fiction Enthusiast
Registered: 11/23/06
Posts: 4950
Loc: Paris, France
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I almost thought Arthur had done a variant of VV on the sly... lol lol It would be much better!! Especially the graphics!  But I think we have to stop talking about this game, it makes Arthur  !! 
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#178751 - 11/29/08 02:05 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: laurence]
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Registered: 11/20/08
Posts: 25
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#178752 - 11/29/08 02:08 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: LisaB]
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Registered: 11/23/06
Posts: 4950
Loc: Paris, France
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#178823 - 11/30/08 01:35 AM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: emri]
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Expert
Registered: 03/16/08
Posts: 116
Loc: Maryland
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I tried EFP once, but I found it much too simple and boring. There are only three jobs, and there aren't too many different tasks for each job to do. Also, I think that the puzzles for the Virtual Villager series beats EFP puzzles by a landslide. And, it is almost impossible to lose in ESP, which doesn't make it very fun (at least for me). At least in VV, it is a challenge to win. Overall - VV > ESP
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#178834 - 11/30/08 02:33 AM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: VVFanatic]
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Consigliere
Registered: 01/24/06
Posts: 233
Loc: Baltimore
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I can NOT believe that new My Tribe game. Its like the equivalent of going into a movie theatre with a camera & recording, say, Titanic & then just changing the main characters' names to Joe and Anna or something. No, better yet renaming them Hack and Bose instead of Jack & Rose. That would be closer to the rip off that happened here. So I heard someone in the chat box ask this question but didnt ever see an answer given: Cant LDW sue? Didn't they get it patented or copyrighted or whatever you call it? If so, there's just no denying that their ideas were stolen.
If they really want to get revenge they can steal some of the ideas from My Tribe & add them to the next VV game. If MT actually did have any original ideas.
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#178859 - 11/30/08 08:33 AM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: Becca123]
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Consigliere
Registered: 08/09/08
Posts: 253
Loc: Australia (via TARDIS)
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I don't think there is my tribe for windows as far as I know Becca
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#178862 - 11/30/08 11:54 AM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: CaszaGirl16138]
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Master of Meditation
Registered: 09/13/06
Posts: 4896
Loc: London, UK
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They have versions for Windows, Mac, and Linux.
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#178869 - 11/30/08 02:38 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: YaelleG]
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Fan Fiction Enthusiast
Registered: 11/23/06
Posts: 4950
Loc: Paris, France
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So I heard someone in the chat box ask this question but didnt ever see an answer given: Cant LDW sue?
Didn't they get it patented or copyrighted or whatever you call it? If so, there's just no denying that their ideas were stolen. ... No, I think they can't sue because there is enough little differences to say that it's not a copy!! Yes, we may answer that there is enough similarities... Look at what Arthur has said here: Re: My Tribe - Rip off much???... If they really want to get revenge they can steal some of the ideas from My Tribe & add them to the next VV game. If MT actually did have any original ideas. I'm not sure that it's a good thing to do what we have condemned but we may denounce it every where!! Please look at this thread: a peaceful protest
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#180282 - 12/20/08 05:04 PM
Re: Do you really think they beat VV?
[Re: Lailai]
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Adviser
Registered: 01/05/08
Posts: 89
Loc: The USA
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I've played escape from paradise,and it's a nice game and everything,but it's a game that once you beat it,it's way boring.And it's really easy.I think VV,VV2,and VV3 are better by a longshot.But that's my opinion.My sister thinks otherwise...
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