Again, nobody is trying to make perfect villagers. I'm simply curious about the pattern of selection in the game, while others are just curious about how to get all blondes, or all red heads or create a fav villager they haven't seen in a while No one meant to upset anyone.

Exactly pumpkin! Like I already said in my original reply, there is no 'perfect'.

By trying out different pairs of people to breed, it's just interesting to see what comes out, and to make the game your own, and most importantly - to have funnnnnn!

And in haveing your fun don't you feel the least bit obsessed with it? Like I meant it is a very sensitive subject for some children to feel obsessed with looks and the such....

It is just my personal opinion that we should not encourage this behavior for fear we may have some here who DO obsess with looks and the like.

As for the "fun" aspect I feel as though this is a control issue, you feel as though you need to control the looks of your villagers. Then go ahead and control them, I just put out my opinion here

Poster: elizabeths184:

"Like I already said in my original reply, there is no 'perfect'."

Oh but that's what you really are looking for, a perfect game to your perfection. There can be a fine line between perfection and fun for some children and adults that is all I am saying here.

poster:KA


and in having your fun dont you feel the least bit obsessed with it? Like i meant it is a very sesitive subject for some children to feel obsessed with looks and the such...


do you mean that it is very useful?


i like this topic and it is useful i think, and you have a good job at doing it. (to the owner of this topic(i forgot the name))


poster:elizabeths184


like i said in my original reply, there is no 'perfect'.


huh?!? they are not perfect, but beautiful instead. also ugly villagers are not unperfect. pumpkin and elizabeths184 you both are right, there is no perfect but also no unperfect.

I don't think that's it, at all. At least, not for me. I think the main point here is that some people cannot get out of the brown-hair rut. I had a terrible time getting blonds in VV3 until I found this, because the hair color scale that leads up to blond is a little misleading. Some people closer to blond on the hair-color scale are not 'more blond' than those further away.

Knowing the system that's used, and what order the heads are in as the game considers it, are the only way I began to effectively sort out my tribes by hair color.

I do understand what you're saying though KittenAngel. You're just worried someone will take this the wrong way and let this type of thinking effect their own self esteem, and I appreciate that, but I assure you that control and perfection are not what we are talking about in this thread.

I myself "marry" my villagers off and let what little ones come that will without worrying what they look like, but as Lurkily said, the trend will always favour the more common brown haired villagers, so I think its interesting that complexity figured out the mechanics (or is trying to) behind how the genetics work. Thats all. But as I said, I do appreciate what you are saying.

Of course it's a control issue, otherwise why go to such length to achieve having blond babes? However, if that's what some of you wish to do, it's really none of my business! I just wouldn't want it becoming a permanent part built into VV4.

Hang on a minute, I think this is spiralling out of control a little bit....

I have played all the VVs a lot of times. That means that I know how all the puzzles end, what the collectibles look like, which stuff to buy first so they all don't die from no food......so I need ways to keep me interested every time I play, to play the game differently and not just go through the motions.

I have done the marrying off thing, keeping track of family trees - I love that, seeing generations of people living together, and trying to get the chief to be from the same family.

Like I said in my original, original post :P, all that's happening is brown + brown = brown, blonde + blonde = blonde, I never said I was trying to achieve 'perfection', or actually trying to achieve Anything in fact. All I'm doing is putting people together and see who comes out in the end.

I also agree with Lurkily, sometimes you can end up with a tribe of all the same men and women because they have a more likely combination (the "somewhere in the middle" people on the averages scale), I do like to have a varied tribe with lots of different people.

I don't see why people are now saying things about control issues, or self esteem issues (?!!!), it's Just A Game to me, I have fun with it and I will continue to have fun with it because I think it's cute, and different every time even after the umpteenth time. I don't think one colour hair is better than another, I don't have any preference for certain villagers per se, I think they're all as cute as each other! (even the one I called ugly hehehe!)

I'll say it again, a game forum isn't really the place for people's issues with genetics in the real world. These are pixellated characters, not real people, and if you think about it really and truly - the "genetics" thing on Virtual Villagers, is really an exercise in mathematics rather than genetic engineering, control or self esteem!

Because I want a challenge. The puzzles in the game run out; so the challenge I set for myself was to make a black/brown haired tribe into blonds. You yourself spoke of how much you liked the glitch that 'unsolved' your puzzles, because it gave you something to do; making my brown-haired tribe blond gives me something to do. Without this information, such a task would take an age and a half, and would rely almost entirely on the use of the mutant hair colors, since the shades of brown or red are not always lined up on the chart in order of their hue. (those not bearing a relation to either parent)



What I can't understand, is the connection between being able to breed for hair color, and self-esteem issues. The bottom line is , one: if you don't like it, you can ignore it. I didn't even know it existed until these forums. Two: Anybody with a self-esteem issue will project it onto anything they like, without help from us. And any self-esteem issues caused by VV Genetics is just that - it's somebody who already has an issue, projecting the problem onto something totally harmless.

VV is not a fashion magazine, and it's not MTV, and it's not a Victoria's Secret catalog. None of these villagers even looks human, except in the most abstract sense. The most flattering thing I can say about any one of the villagers is that they have a nice dress or hair style.

I'm going to stop right here -- because the very concept that a genetic system in VV could possibly cause the kinds of problems with self-esteem that stick-thin fasion models cause is so absurd to me that I could rant for pages if I didn't cut it short.

sleep-sleep-sleep-sleep-sleep-sleep-sleep-sleep-sleeping some more...
Like I said from the beginning, I wouldn't want it becoming a permanent part built into VV4.