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#165441 - 07/26/08 09:25 AM Re: VV2 Genetics Guide: Which parents make which c [Re: Tuna Puzzler]
swedane Offline
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 456
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Originally Posted By: Tuna Puzzler
Since you included "Pursuing one's own happiness at the "expense" of others." in your explanation, please explain how breeding villagers will hurt other people.
NONE what so ever, but do explain!

Originally Posted By: Tuna Puzzler
Because it appears we have now gone from it hurting the player to it hurting unknown numbers of innocent bystanders.

We have? Who's we? And how so?
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#165443 - 07/26/08 10:20 AM Re: VV2 Genetics Guide: Which parents make which c [Re: swedane]
Tuna Puzzler Offline
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Registered: 06/18/07
Posts: 339
Loc: CA, USA
That's my question to you, actually. You keep avoiding answering it. Why is that?

You seem to feel very strongly about this. I'm just asking you to please put it into words. I'm curious about what exactly you think will happen to a player who goes for a "perfect 10" in the game, or breeds for a certain hair color. Clearly you feel that some truly awful thing will happen. But what?

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Any one wanting a perfect 10 in life or in a game, should do so at their own expense.


I'm confused by the idea of some undefined calamity hanging over all of our heads, just because we have figured out that villager head 4 and villager head 6 will produce villager head 5.
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#165445 - 07/26/08 10:49 AM Re: VV2 Genetics Guide: Which parents make which c [Re: Tuna Puzzler]
kittenangel2001 Offline
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Registered: 02/24/07
Posts: 992
Loc: Pennsylvania
Ok people please drop it and agree to disagree??? I am personally getting tired of having to come back to this subject only to have you guys arguing, I got enough of that here in RL! Your opinions were heard and now it seems as though you are cramming it down our throats! Please stop.

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#165447 - 07/26/08 11:29 AM Re: VV2 Genetics Guide: Which parents make which c [Re: kittenangel2001]
Tuna Puzzler Offline
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I imagine a lot of people weren't too thrilled to have a perfectly good thread derailed by strange rants that implied impending doom.

Kitten, no offense, but you seem to be very quick to tell people to stop talking about things you don't like. You're the one who said that we shouldn't talk about genetics at all out of "fear" that someone will be harmed by it. And now this, too? Are your opinions the only ones allowed to be crammed down throats?

I've been waiting for a mod to come lock this, because it's head over heals more ridiculous that other threads that were locked in half the time. However, unless you have become a mod and I missed it, I think we should leave the happy task of killing this thread to one of the lucky persons who hold that position.
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#165459 - 07/26/08 12:05 PM Re: VV2 Genetics Guide: Which parents make which c [Re: kittenangel2001]
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Registered: 06/04/08
Posts: 928
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Wow. A lot happened. I'll put a summary at the top, since many people don't read long posts:

Since all our assertions have been denied, we're obviously misunderstanding what Swedane has tried to say. I don't think he's saying he doesn't want the system present in the game, just that he doesn't want to have to use it to complete all the tasks in the game. (Puzzles, achievements, awards, etc.)

What am I arguing about? I simply perceived Swedane to be saying that allowing players to use genetics to try and get the 'perfect' villager is harmful to self-esteem, in the same way fashion magazines, which portray only stick-thin models, (Or well-built, in a man's case) can be harmful to a normally-proportioned healthy person's self esteem. I assumed this because he agreed with Kitten who said that she thought Swedane was talking about the "pressure in real life to look perfect".

Since Swedane is disagreeing with everything asserting that he felt this way, I can only assume I'm mistaken, and I apologize, although I assure you Swedane that your comments were misleading, if that's not what you were trying to say. I admit to feeling a little irked. I think that not being able to understand what you're trying to say is the reason that everybody's assuming you're saying something that you apparently are not.

I apologize to Kitten and others who feel that it's being crammed down their throats; I had intended to wrap up my argument after the last post, only a little less than 24 hours ago, but it seems like other people have ideas of their own to propound.

To make it clear, Swedane apparently wasn't saying what I thought he was saying - and wasn't saying what others think he was saying. (I haven't read all of those arguments, since it seems like a waste of time when he's already denied their accuracy) So there isn't a discussion to be had here.

I think in the end, Swedane is only saying that he doesn't like to be controlling with his villagers, hence why he wouldn't like genetics being a part of VV4; I assume that he means that he doesn't want genetics being a part of the Puzzles, Awards, or Accomplishments, since that would force him to utilize genetics, and be controlling, to achieve them all, and force him to play a way he doesn't like to play.

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#165461 - 07/26/08 12:28 PM Re: VV2 Genetics Guide: Which parents make which c [Re: Lurkily]
Tuna Puzzler Offline
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I don't even know why I'm here, since not only do genetics in VV not interest me, but I wasn't even interested in the original thread. My villager heads are edited. They're completely mixed up as a result, with several duplicates of my faves. No point trying to breed for anything in that mess.

I just find irrational arguments fascinating, and this thread was full of them.

The odd thing about Swedane is that he has replied with denial to anyone who has attempted to pinpoint what exactly he means. So we know something about genetics is apparently very, very bad, but not why he thinks so. That is what makes it so fascinating to argue about. Like you said, Lurkily, not being able to understand what in the world he means is why this thing keeps going on and on.

I mean, I asked what was so bad about breeding for looks, and he said, basically, "nothing is bad about it, but you'd be doing it at your own expense." LOL!!!

You know, at first I thought this might be a race thing, since "blonde" got thrown around so much. But I don't think that's it. Then I thought it might be an inbreeding thing, except in reverse (as in, don't make me stop inbreeding if I want to). Basically, I have no idea, even after listening to all this ranting.
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#165465 - 07/26/08 01:42 PM Re: VV2 Genetics Guide: Which parents make which c [Re: Lurkily]
swedane Offline
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 456
Loc: BC. CANADA
Originally Posted By: Lurkily

I think in the end, Swedane is only saying that he doesn't like to be controlling with his villagers, hence why he wouldn't like genetics being a part of VV4; I assume that he means that he doesn't want genetics being a part of the Puzzles, Awards, or Accomplishments, since that would force him to utilize genetics, and be controlling, to achieve them all, and force him to play a way he doesn't like to play.
You're right, Lurkily! Except for a one minor detail. He's a SHE!
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#165466 - 07/26/08 01:43 PM Re: VV2 Genetics Guide: Which parents make which c [Re: Tuna Puzzler]
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Okey, dokey. I think this one has gone on long enough. I think it's time to lock it before it gets even worse. \:o
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