On the game VV3.I am not happy with this game somewhat. The island should be much larger, the builders nad doctors should have more to do, it takes too long to get points to advance. The chief should have more to do. There should be more herbs to pick and more trees for food. Growing the trees does take too long. If I were to pick the best of the three games I would say VV1 is the best with a lot more to do on the island.
I wonder when VV4 will be available to purchase. I am adicted to these games even though I am not too pleased with the last one out.

Honestly you all need to also remember that WE WERE THE ONES who suggested most (if not all) of the VV3 events, graphics, designs, etc..

LDW designers actually listened to us all when we made our wishes and suggestions known, but true.

I, for one, am very happy it takes a long time to finish the puzzles, it makes it worth the money I paid for it lol.

• it takes longer to do anything in this game, you can only have a certain number of trees, so on and so forth.

This is different from its predecessors how? It takes no more time to do things, though the requirements are different. You could only have one berry bush in VV1, and three coconut trees in VV2.

• all the while, watching my villagers starve because there's no way of getting food unless you get enough tech points

Again, different how? In VV1 you will run out of food and die without research. In VV2 you will run out of food and die without research. In VV3 you will run out of food and die without research.

• You will be disappointed with the game because you will realise that you've paid for a game that has no continuity once the puzzles are solved and they just keep having babies and fish and collect tech points but for what?

You implied that you played the other games, but you keep saying things that nobody who played the other games would say. This is no different than VV1 or VV2. If you had played those games, this would not surprise you.

• I stated fully and clearly that i was disappointed with the game, upon which all the replies that i recieved from the software vendor accused me of lying, having no morals and then threatened me that they have "changed their policy as of yesterday"... refunds will no longer be available after 48 hours. yeah, whatever.

The developer guarantee is the developer guarantee. The vendor is not the developer. Also, most such guarantees have nothing to do with if you like it - that's what the free demo is for, to make sure you like it. I don't know the specifics of LDW's guarantee, but such things are usually regarding technical issues.

With the cost of most games today, and the length it takes me to play some of them, I'd say two weeks of solid enjoyment out of ten bucks is pretty dang good.

Hmm... I've read the six pages of all this.

I think that VV3 is a story more than a game. Certainly, i found it fun when i could lead how the trive growed, but, for average console gamers, the fun is before an after the end. It is what is called replay value. And yes, i did it with FT, i got in unwritten and unprogrammed challenge mode, to finish the game on 40 hours or less or to get every breed. But that's FT.

What is worth to do when every puzzle is solved? Maybe some puzzles, some days, some people must interact each other. I haven't played the game. But some replay value could be the potions and its uses. The game is now released, so it can't be modified. But, what about studying something on an already finished puzzle, with maybe more extras from more puzzles, and a track of all the potions?

Well, those ideas dont come until i got the phrase "Replay value" on my mind. I liked the first games of LDW, i played until 3:00am, believe me... But since LDW got carried away with VV and no longer developed for palm, i lost its clue.

Well, it is only me. Barbara once said that i can say everything that comes to my mind, but on a entendible, and proper way.

Sorry, but I can only say that you were too rude, ReneHoney, like some others were saying, and that I am unhappy. Well, I guess I could explain my mood. Look at my username. Crazy VV3 Fan. Peeps who love the game like me don't like seeing these kinds of things. Well, normal complaints are fine with me, but this was anything but normal. Gosh, you didn't have to rant. *talks to self* "Oh boy, I need to calm down."

I enjoy this game

you see, now, mabye that new game (on the previews page) might take longer to be developed/come out, because of new software/programming tools, all because of that $20.00. i am sure that at least 75% of all profits go into making new games, so i am happy to spend $20.00 for an ldw game.

I'm sorry, but Ill have to partially agree with the original comment. It takes far too long to gain tech points to improve the life of your villagers. Meanwhile, what are you to do when your villagers are starving and you can't fish yet because you can't get rid of the sharks because you are 30,000 points short of upgrading your faction? I haven't finished the game and I still love it but that issue makes it very frustrating to play.

I've run through the game several times, but haven't yet lost a tribe to starvation. The trick is not to expand your population - at all, until you have lots of food. Even then, expand your population only cautiously, while focusing on tech. You don't want to expand when you can't sustain their needs, you want the minimum sustainable population; for me, I find 5 is a good number to aim for; that usually expands to 7 or 8, if children of the needed gender aren't born right away.

Personally, I've played the game on fast, and having the game whisked through all the puzzles so quickly really demolishes the sense of accomplishment and reward. If this were SimCity, it would need a faster pace; but for casual gamers, I think the pace is good.

I have been watching this thread for some time now and I have been a wee bit concerned by the tone the thread has taken at times.

The crux of the matter seems to be that some gamers find the game too challenging in the first part then not challenging enough.

The completion of the puzzles followed by the open end is what many people like about the game. This is not Grand Theft Auto and at half the price who could expect it to be.

The trial period allows you to see if the game is suitable for you and as far as I am concerned, any complaint you have after a trial which can last up to a week is more to do with personal taste than any serious issues with the game.

Gamers of VV3 have a choice: they can play the game on their own, working out how to keep their tribes from starving (this is a problem solving game - without problems there would be no game) or they can check out the forum for help.

Every consumer has rights with regard to their purchasing power. However, those rights come with responsibilities also.