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#152992 - 05/31/08 07:20 PM Re: Is anyone disappointed with the game? [Re: Snowbird]
Gatsbi Offline
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Registered: 05/26/06
Posts: 167
Some ideas for those wondering what to do after they finished the puzzles:

1. Work on getting all the awards
2. Get all the collections
3. Start a new tribe in the other faction
4. Start a new tribe and keep track of family connections

I did a version of option 4...but I just gave a few of them nobility titles. When I get all the awards I will start one with last names.

This game I am enjoying to see the various appearances that are maintained in the royal family. It is fun to see the same appearances over generations within the one family group.

Next game I am going to see if I can get a family of only redheads, a family of blondes, a family of brunettes, and a family with black hair!

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#152996 - 05/31/08 07:26 PM Re: Is anyone disappointed with the game? [Re: milou]
arnie Offline
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Registered: 09/13/06
Posts: 4896
Loc: London, UK
While I totally disagree with the original post, for reasons others have mentioned before, I must take issue with the statement that LDW was 'cocky' in offering money back if not satisfied. Surely that's normal business practice? By the poster's own admission two solid weeks were devoted to playing it, which seems pretty good value to me. And then she wanted her money back?
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#153001 - 05/31/08 07:34 PM Re: Is anyone disappointed with the game? [Re: milou]
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Registered: 05/31/08
Posts: 166
Loc: United States of America
Quote by Milou: {I had one with all Star Trek names } You would absolutly Love The Star Trek Mod For VV2... It has ALL the uniform's from "Next Generation" And Phaser's by the hut's etc... Check it out under VV2 Mod's! \:\)
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#153004 - 05/31/08 07:40 PM Re: Is anyone disappointed with the game? [Re: arnie]
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Registered: 10/06/06
Posts: 49
Well, I have to say that this VV is waaay harder (imo) than the others. I am spoiler peeking left and right. I only used spoilers in vv2 for the stews. VV1, did all on my own. While I value the OP's opinion, I thought the post was pretty harsh. Especially to be posting on the creators website. As far as demanding a refund, I would say no way. I STILL haven't found the last rare stone in VV2! I want my money back! Imagine that. That's just silly. Now if the game didn't play properly I could see it, but because someone played it for 2 weeks, beat it and was disappointed....well...<insert choice words here>

BTW...I still have 3 tribes in VV1 and 2 in VV2. I check on them everyday and still searching for the elusive last stone!
I love VV and PT and hoping a PT2 comes out!

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#153076 - 05/31/08 09:59 PM Re: Is anyone disappointed with the game? [Re: jennyjenn153]
isla Offline
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Registered: 05/15/08
Posts: 378
If ReneHoney had played for a couple of hours, was disappointed and no longer wished to play, then that would be justifiable in demanding her money back but to give a game "constant attention" for "almost two weeks" and finish it and then say that she's disappointed and wants her money back is lacking in morality. She enjoyed the game enough to give it her constant attention for two weeks. Two weeks' enjoyment for $19.95 is well worth it. The way I justified to myself buying VV3 was it's the price of two movies for days or weeks of entertainment. It's like if Rene had paid to watch a movie, watched the whole thing and been disappointed, then what happens? She'd go home and tough luck. Don't watch the movie again. I don't think the 30-day money back guarantee was meant for people who finished the game.

About VV3 being harder to gain tech points and it taking such a long time, I didn't really have that problem. I didn't have it with VV2 either. I only had that problem the first time I played VV1 and learned what strategy I like to adopt to play VV. If you're having a tough time gaining tech points, maybe you should try a different strategy. And the same thing for the people who think the statue took too long to complete. Mine took ~7-8 hours.
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#153147 - 06/01/08 05:15 AM Re: Is anyone disappointed with the game? [Re: ReneHoney]
melanoma Offline
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Registered: 05/31/08
Posts: 96
It's too bad your experience with VV3 is no negative. However, mine has been the exact opposite. I know what it's like not to get your money back (gametap/I took them to BBB & then got my money back).

Getting food is not only done with tech points. To me, VV3 is not a get-to-the-goal to win. It requires more patience and searching. It's tried my patience many times, so I just left it for a while til I could enjoy it again.

Maybe checking the forum for extra help, and start over? There are lots of surprises they don't even mention on the forum. I have 42 villagers, and they make SO MUCH NOISE! LOL I hope you give it another chance.

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#153153 - 06/01/08 05:21 AM Re: Is anyone disappointed with the game? [Re: ReneHoney]
bethlham Offline
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Registered: 03/31/07
Posts: 885
Originally Posted By: ReneHoney
I was so excited about this game when I found out it was released that I purchased it straight away from LDW.

upon which I proceeded to pay constant attention to it. I finished the game within 2 weeks and it really is a bad version of its predecessors,it takes longer to do anything in this game, you can only have a certain number of trees, so on and so forth.

... you've paid for a game that has no continuity once the puzzles are solved and they just keep having babies and fish and collect tech points but for what?

you can do nothing with them. unless you want to restart a village and solve the same puzzles over and over

i think LDW is run by children. not professional at all.

I will let you read the replies from LDW, just PM me.


Well, I agree with the other posters who addressed these issues. I think this was more 'a rant' than an actual attempt to express a concern or resolve an issue.

I PM'd to read the replies and got no responce, my request was not even read so I can only assume the original post was a blurb and not an attempt at dialogue...Which is fine too I suppose.

At this point all I can say is...I think the game is great. I think it's well worth $20 to me and every experiance I've had with LDW has been awesome. They deserve all the credit they get and more.

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#153189 - 06/01/08 06:48 AM Re: Is anyone disappointed with the game? [Re: bethlham]
Arthur Administrator Offline
Lead Designer

Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 2729
Loc: San Francisco
Renehoney, you will get your refund, and in generally anyone who really is not satisfied or cannot get the game working does get a refund.

If you got in a long dialog with Carla about this, do keep in mind that she handles HUNDREDS of various support issues EVERY DAY these last days, and she is only human. Consider that you are talking to Barbara, Carla, and myself directly! The people that created this game are in direct communcation with as many people as we can possibly manage, and we really care about our friends and fans and try to make it a good experience for everyone.

Of course the game will not appeal to everyone...we are very very thankful that it does appeal to the vast majority of people who try it, but we make a lot of design decisions in the game that are going to be LOVED by some people and HATED by others. This makes the game interesting and not bland.

Again, we are sorry about you maybe having received 'the short end' of a very long day on our part and we will continue to do everything we can to stay close to our community and customers and we will try to keep everyone happy as much as possible. \:\)

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#153195 - 06/01/08 06:58 AM Re: Is anyone disappointed with the game? [Re: Arthur]
lucas Offline
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Registered: 10/05/07
Posts: 856
Loc: AZ
Well as posted before that my game was glitchey off and on well I fixed the problem or my hubby did and I am back to playing VV3. It is a lil hard but I will have it done. I am not try'ng to finish the game in like a week or so I want to take my time and enjoy it. I think people where wanting the game so bad, that when it did come out people played it out so fast. Didnt take time to enjoy it and relax. I am not say'ng every one but some did. I think my 20.00 was worth it. Thanks LDW great game \:\)
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#153204 - 06/01/08 07:18 AM Re: Is anyone disappointed with the game? [Re: lucas]
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Registered: 12/16/07
Posts: 1200
Loc: The Beautiful Ozarks
You know it's sorta funny. I've paid A LOT more for some games that I play for a day or week, and then get bored with, or find too tedious etc. etc. etc.

What I tend to find really unusual is that NONE of those other games have: A) A forum which is entertaining and helpful. B) A place where I can actually TALK to the creators/developers of the game. C) Post comments (good or bad) about my satisfaction, or lack thereof, with the game.

I think a lot of the "dissatisfaction" with VV3 is due to the fact that "WE" were fortunate to get it "hot off the press" so to speak. It still has some (minor) issues for which the staff is working hard to develop patches. I've no doubt that these will be ironed out soon, if they aren't already.

I also find that the games continue to evolve in a most satis- factory way. Yes, it is different than VV2 was, just as that was different from VV1. I find myself spending MUCH more time playing this version, or more accurately, ACTIVELY playing it. I tend to micromanage the villagers on a level I would not have dreamed of in the previous 2 versions.

I'm sorry that some of you were disappointed with VV3, but as for me...IT JUST MAKES ME THAT MUCH MORE ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT THEY COME UP WITH FOR VV4!
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