I had tried it with less villagers, only it takes a very long time to get anywhere. I am going to restart it one more time and see what happens, will keep my villagers below 15 and see what happens and even with all those people getting points becomes difficult as well, I mean how many people can be involved in the research, building and farming?? For cheriann, I have the three trees, and mushrooms. May have to rethink the order in which I buy tech points as in doing the the one tech item to assure myself of being able to catch fish before growing. Only thing to bother me is I had already solved half the puzzles. Oh well, did it once will do it again and let you all know how it goes. Lady CFII if you think I am going in the wrong direction I give you permission to use my e-mail which may save us time. Thanks for the help