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#148244 - 05/20/08 05:55 PM Self-sufficiency of tribes
Isis FG Offline
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Registered: 08/18/07
Posts: 28
Loc: Eastern PA, USA
Has anyone else noticed that the villagers of VV3 seem a lot less self-sufficient than VV2?

What I mean is that VV2 I can leave alone for days and the villagers manage to take care of themselves...the 14 year olds will try different things and gain skill, etc.

But VV3, the young adults all just seem to plop their butts in front of the fire and just sit there. When I got up this morning, I had about 15 kids ranging in age from 21 to 14 all lounging in front of the fire. Only 2 had a smidge of any skill. And trying to train them...sheesh. All they want to do is sit around the fire. Even when they gain a skill point or two, it's back to the fire.

So yeah, has anyone else noticed this? It's kind of disappointing. I don't know if I'll want to try keeping a tribe going as long as I have for VV2 if they are going to require this kind of constant attention.
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#148251 - 05/20/08 06:15 PM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: Isis FG]
Bom Offline
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Registered: 04/15/08
Posts: 71
Really??? I think they are more "self-sufficient" in VV3, every villager gets to work immediately, one of my villagers sat on the Research Table for 5 minutes and she became adept because she didn't run off. Most of my villagers get to work themselves!

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#148253 - 05/20/08 06:20 PM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: Bom]
Isis FG Offline
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Registered: 08/18/07
Posts: 28
Loc: Eastern PA, USA
Huh. All the ones I had born with no skill seem to want to do nothing on their own. They were all just piled around the fire, and it took a while to get them all working.
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#148279 - 05/20/08 06:56 PM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: Isis FG]
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Registered: 10/07/04
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Loc: Colorado
Are you using your chief to full advantage? \:\)
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#148283 - 05/20/08 07:00 PM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: Isis FG]
bubbly38 Offline
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Registered: 10/02/06
Posts: 30
I find it varies alot. I have some very energetic ones that work without prompting, and others that just lounge around not sure what to do.

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#148289 - 05/20/08 07:12 PM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: bubbly38]
Anki Offline
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Registered: 05/01/08
Posts: 139
Loc: Delhi, India
Yup a bit only, i dont think they r a bad learner but i also agrees like in Vv2 if the hv just a bit of any skill (untrained also means the exp bar just start only) they start doing tht wrk n gain skill. But in Vv3 u hv to keep dragaging the same Villager to do the same work again n again. Its while when exp bar is still showing some exp fr villager but info bar says "unsure what to do"


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#148318 - 05/20/08 07:41 PM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: Anki]
Isis FG Offline
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Registered: 08/18/07
Posts: 28
Loc: Eastern PA, USA
I've only had the opportunity to use my chief about 4 times I think, and running in Fast mode, the kids grow up before he can do too much.

It was just rather disappointing to get back to my computer this morning and literally see all but 1 of my 14-21 year-olds sitting around the fire...which was about 15 young adults. Most of them had either no skill at all, or one skill increment. For my tribe, there just doesn't seem to be any inclination among them to learn to work on their own.
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#148323 - 05/20/08 07:52 PM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: Isis FG]
arnie Offline
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Registered: 09/13/06
Posts: 4896
Loc: London, UK
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all but 1 of my 14-21 year-olds sitting around the fire

Just like real life, in fact. ;\)
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#148351 - 05/20/08 08:18 PM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: Bom]
isla Offline
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Registered: 05/15/08
Posts: 378
Originally Posted By: Bom
Really??? I think they are more "self-sufficient" in VV3, every villager gets to work immediately, one of my villagers sat on the Research Table for 5 minutes and she became adept because she didn't run off. Most of my villagers get to work themselves!


\:D I noticed the same thing too for the ones with no skill. I was thinking of making some bums and wondering if I could and now I know I can. \:D
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#148386 - 05/20/08 09:47 PM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: Isis FG]
jbart321 Offline
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Registered: 02/19/07
Posts: 103
This is true. I have noticed this as well. They seem to just do what they want unless you tell them to do something. Makes for a very dull game. Plus, the Chief doesn't really do anything. I figured by making her direct work it would help, but it doesn't.

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#148525 - 05/21/08 02:03 AM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: jbart321]
Simsane Offline
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Registered: 02/17/07
Posts: 538
Loc: Washington State
I haven't seen that actually, most of mine work on their own. I have had a couple of them who I have to keep on constantly, but most are fine. Whereas in VV2, I had the opposite problem, if I did not keep on them for a really long time, like until they were almost Masters in a skill, they wouldn't stick with it. Drove me nuts! lol! I do use my chief to try to direct, but if it's a new one, just turned 14 with no skill at all, then it doesn't matter if the chief is directing or not. I've got to stay on top of them. But at least in VV3, once they hit the training stage, you can slack off a little and once they are adept, you don't need to watch them at all anymore. I love that change.

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#148527 - 05/21/08 02:10 AM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: Simsane]
Tralah Offline
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Registered: 03/18/07
Posts: 93
The second rank of leadership is supposed to allow the chief to teach the children, so I bet if they have some skills when they turn 14, they're more likely to take up tasks.

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#148585 - 05/21/08 03:47 AM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: arnie]
kittyhawk Offline
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Registered: 05/11/08
Posts: 37
Loc: Isola North
Originally Posted By: arnie
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all but 1 of my 14-21 year-olds sitting around the fire

Just like real life, in fact. ;\)


ROFL!

That happened to me and then I checked the box next to the activity I wanted them to work on. I don't know if it was just a coincidence, but they kept working after that (they also leveled up and that may be the true motivating force.. I don't know)
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#148593 - 05/21/08 04:15 AM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: kittyhawk]
Simsane Offline
Master

Registered: 02/17/07
Posts: 538
Loc: Washington State
Maybe checking the box helps, but I always check the boxes while they are still children. Even with them checked though, I still end up having to watch them like a hawk until it says Training Builder or Training Farmer, then I can slack off somewhat, but still have to pay some attention and get them back on task until they become Adept at the task. As I said earlier though, I felt you had to pay attention and keep them on task much longer in VV2 than I do now.

And to the poster who mentioned having the Chief "teach" the children, that may help. I don't know because I keep forgetting that she can. \:\)

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#148892 - 05/21/08 08:38 PM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: jbart321]
amandawky Offline
Newbie

Registered: 05/19/08
Posts: 5
Loc: Kentucky
yeah ive had a couple of batches of lazy villagers. i wanted to throw one to the sharks but once she gained her skill level she worked very hard. I found that if you set their preference and then keep at them, eventually they will start working on their own.

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#152768 - 05/31/08 02:48 AM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: amandawky]
mmc Offline
Newbie

Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 15
I find that VV3 are more focused on working than VV2. Most of them are hard workers. There is the occasional slacker but even they go back to work on their own.

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#152782 - 05/31/08 03:24 AM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: amandawky]
swedane Offline
Master

Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 456
Loc: BC. CANADA
LOL.... I tried that, even the shacks are lazy. \:o
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#153215 - 06/01/08 08:02 AM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: swedane]
Damballah Offline
Consigliere

Registered: 09/09/07
Posts: 236
Loc: Somewhere in time....
Many of my villagers, as soon as they are 14, start their tasks on their own. If you check a task when they are children, the chief's lectures will make them gain in that skill, and they will begin on their own. (Is that a spoiler?)

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#153223 - 06/01/08 08:43 AM Re: Self-sufficiency of tribes [Re: jbart321]
Becca123 Offline
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Registered: 12/28/07
Posts: 709
Loc: In a happy place =D
Well, my villagers seem to be influenced by their fellow tribe members. If I have twenty villagers on research, usually when I come back there will be a few more trainees who used to be untrained \:\)

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