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#141479 - 05/10/08 03:15 AM Re: SPOILERS! Strategies for making Esteemed Elder [Re: shemee]
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i could definstely use thiss. im far behind in everything. i love the clothing idea.
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#141542 - 05/10/08 10:50 AM Re: SPOILERS! Strategies for making Esteemed Elder [Re: shemee]
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Wow! Thank you! Trying it now!
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#141695 - 05/10/08 05:53 PM Re: SPOILERS! Strategies for making Esteemed Elder [Re: Lailai]
Complexity Offline
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You're welcome! I hope it helps. If you find a different way that works for you, please post it so it can be shared with everyone. \:\)

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#142768 - 05/13/08 12:51 AM Re: SPOILERS! Strategies for making Esteemed Elder [Re: Complexity]
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There are several things that I do that help me produce esteemed elders (includes spoilers):

The first of which is using stews when the villagers are children. I feed the children the exercise stew (Red Red Red) and it makes them perform one of three exercise routines. They take off running from the cauldron in one of three directions: upper left, upper right, lower right. They tend to get stuck in upper left and lower right once additional huts have been built, so if you see them take off in any direction except upper right drag them back to the stew to eat and try again. If they take the route to the upper right, they will run to the rocks to the right of the blue flower and lift them. They will then do 'sit-ups' and after that they will either get an increase in building or shake their heads and say "no." They get a skill increase roughly 1/3 of the time. It takes a lot of persistent effort to keep dragging them back, but you can easily get a 4 year old with 40% of his build skill bar already colored in. The other way that I train kids is to make them eat a sickening stew (Black Black Red) and then drag the other healthy children to heal them. The reason I do this with children is because it keeps the adults happily working and you can round up all of the kids by dragging an adept/master parent onto a child. They will all line up in neat rows near the stew. A trainee parent will tell stories and that will not cause as many children to come running as the adept parent parent will.

About the parenting skill:
At first I found it a lot easier to make men esteemed eldersthan women because I would make them build, then farm, and then, when they were too old and slow to move around, research. Unfortunately, this meant that if I wanted a woman to become an elder with these three skills, she would have to have very few children, otherwise she would start moving very slowly before she finished mastering her farming or building skills. The solution to the problem I found was this: train the female villager as a child in building by feeding her the stew. Then at 14 start her on construction. Once she masters the building skill, drag her onto children to tell stories. This will boost her parenting bar up to 40% if you're persistent, which is the equivalent skill gain of having approximately 5 kids. Then start breeding her to masters; that way her children may be born a potential increase in those skills. If a female villager can no longer birth children but is still not a master in parenting, use the "Mrs. Robinson Method." Drag the now post-menopausal villager repeatedly onto a young 'stud.' The couple does not even need to go into the breeding hut, just drag the female villager onto the male over and over again in the same spot. After dropping her about 500 times or roughly 9 minutes of dropping her once every second, a villager at about the 50% mark will have mastered the skill of parenting. She is then free to work as a scientist and become an esteemed elder in that fashion. It is also possible to train a female in 2 skills such as building and science before using "The Mrs. Robinson Method" to make her a master of parenting.

Hope that this helps! I know that it sounds pretty weird... but it works! \:\)

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#142782 - 05/13/08 01:07 AM Re: SPOILERS! Strategies for making Esteemed Elder [Re: lloydbug]
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Also,

Quick question to go along with this post. Is there a different totem for every combination of skills? I.E. 5! / (3! x 2!) = 10? Or is a totem generated at random with each esteemed elder? So far I have 31 total totems, 8 different...

Thanks,
lloydbug

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#142785 - 05/13/08 01:08 AM Re: SPOILERS! Strategies for making Esteemed Elder [Re: lloydbug]
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As far as I know it's random. \:\)
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#143539 - 05/14/08 03:16 AM Re: SPOILERS! Strategies for making Esteemed Elders [Re: Complexity]
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Registered: 04/27/08
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I did read all your posts Complexity and found them very helpful. I was already using "uniforms" for the different skills and starting them all on farming, but I think you are definitely right on with the training method. Using your method of training them on all skills young also lets me know who the smart ones are. I've started to grade them with A B C etc.

I do it slightly different in that I do building second and researching last. Researching takes much much less time than either fishing or building. At the very beginning with no skills inherited from parents, I was putting them where I needed them so I know on average it takes approx. 9 - 10 years to master researching, and approx. 18 - 19 to master fishing (starting at 14). I never started anyone at 14 with no inherited skill on building, but I know it takes A LOT longer to master than fishing. I'm sure your tips will help them become EE's quite a bit faster. Thank you so much for posting this!

I am currently at 47 elders! The men wear the black outfit with the striped shirt and the women wear the white gown. They are all healers thanks to you and are comfortably retired. They do whatever they want, and seem to mostly enjoy fishing. I checked my logs and all of my villagers have died of old age. The eldest was only 77 though.

My smarter villagers seem to become elders around their late 50s. The females who've had a few children around early to mid 60's. I've only had 4 female master parents. They each had between 9 - 11 children. I also don't breed anyone until they have mastered at least fishing. If they happen to be one of my selected special breeders, I help them along a bit to help them get mastered faster. However, I've also started to look at the "intelligence" factor. I am curious as to whether that is an inherited factor. That's for the other thread though

@lloydbug

I will try your suggestion! I've only used the Mrs. Robinson method on one female. She was just so close and was too old to start building. It was very amusing. She had a favorite "victim" and I would drag them to the hut and she'd keep him there for at least 15 minutes at a time. LOL!
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#150804 - 05/26/08 03:47 AM Re: SPOILERS! Strategies for making Esteemed Elders [Re: Starhawk]
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Registered: 05/15/08
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Hmm, did not know that the exercise stew would work, nor the adults "entertaining" the kids! I shall have to get started right away \:D I have a beloved woman now over 50 who only birthed one child \:\( And I'm really particular with the "stud" method. I tend to only do so with the ones who were paired together before because they tend to take better instead of constantly running away. And unfortunately, her man was about 10 years older and died before I purchased Med Tech Level 2.

So I guess you could say I base mine on affections or skill level. For example, I get some villagers who will take to anything in half the time! I've got one right now on her way to being an EE because I don' even have to check a preference and whatever I put her to do even once is what she sticks with! I also tend to use my runners, in hopes of making them skilled in all five. However, I do not let them waste too many years on kids since the running trait isn't inherited anyways.
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#150809 - 05/26/08 04:01 AM Re: SPOILERS! Strategies for making Esteemed Elder [Re: Complexity]
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Originally Posted By: Complexity
You're welcome! I hope it helps. If you find a different way that works for you, please post it so it can be shared with everyone. \:\)


Have you considered asking LadyCFII about putting a stradegy post in the guides?

Just wondering. \:\)

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