didn't realise there were tabs, told you I was stupid. Heart has sunk now, I haven't had either of those plants, think it's time to go back to basics. What a drag. Thanks everyone for being so responsive and helpful, I'm going to go and sulk now, got another 7 hours before the seeds I can buy are replenished. Sigh. The really embarassing thing is, I now understand borgs tables, no wonder I wasn't getting very far, spending 2 hours pouring over the pricing chart. How humiliating.